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Laura Joint at Plainmoor

Laura Joint, standing on the Pop Side

Goodbye to the Gulls

Torquay United have been relegated out of the Football League, 80 years after joining the league in 1927. For lifelong Gulls fans like myself, it's a day we've been dreading - but half expecting - for some time.

I remember (vaguely!) the first time my dad took me to Plainmoor to watch Torquay United. It was in the mid-1960s, and we took up what was to become our usual spot high up, towards the back of the Pop Side terracing.

If I could see around the people in front of me, I got a good view of the goalmouth at the Ellacombe End. Being knee-high to a grasshopper at the time, I didn't actually see much of the action - but I got the gist of it, and I was hooked.

I got to know all the usual faces who also stood in our area, and we gave them nicknames. There was 'shouter' and 'moaner' - guess what they used to do, non-stop, for 90 minutes.

Torquay's squad in 1969

Torquay's squad in 1969 (Getty)

United had a good team in the 1960s, and a good manager - Frank O'Farrell, but I was too young really to appreciate this era for the Gulls. As it turns out, this was as good as it ever got.

My clearest memories (still) as a United fan are from the 1970s. The players I remember really well, for some reason, are Ian Twitchen, Bruce Stuckey, Dick Edwards, Steve Cooper, Willie Brown, Jimmy Dunne, Les Lawrence and Mick Mahoney.

At the end of games, kids could go onto the pitch and pat the players on the back, which I did on the odd occasions when I felt brave enough.

The club was very much a part of the community, and my sister and I would stroll in to watch pre-season training at Plainmoor during the summer holidays.

At some point during the '70s, I made the momentous move from the Pop Side to the Mini Stand. This was a very scary place. Everyone else seemed a few years older and quite a bit bigger than me…but it was so exciting!

In those days, United played their home games on Saturday evenings and the atmosphere seemed so much better. We weren't hugely successful but I'd been watching United long enough not to expect too much in the way of trophies - or promotion, for that matter.

And then there were the 1980s - bottom of the league and re-elected twice, and then the 'saved by the police dog' incident on the last day of the 1986-7 season. I remember that game - the 2-2 draw against Crewe - as though it was yesterday.

Laura playing footy in the '60s

Playing footy in the 60s, and already a Gulls fan

Head in hands one minute, jumping up and down like a lunatic the next as Paul Dobson's injury-time equaliser saved United's bacon. We all stood around saying 'phew, that was a close shave - let's hope it never happens again…'

There have been good days, of course. The hugely unexpected visits to Wembley in 1989 and 1991 were like two family days out.

Up we all went in a convoy of cars, pinching ourselves that little old Torquay United were playing at Wembley Stadium - albeit in the final of the Sherpa Van Trophy, which they lost against Bolton.

And the promotion play-off win against Blackpool (which finished after penalties at about 11pm) has to be my best moment as a Gulls fan.

On the way back down the motorway, we stuck on a Simon and Garfunkel tape and sang-along all the way home!

A third appearance at Wembley in 1998 ended in disappointment, however, with defeat in the promotion play-off final against Colchester.

I've had a lot of laughs watching Torquay, and reporting on them for the local media. I think the biggest laugh I ever had was at my own expense in May 2001. It was the final day of the season and next-to-bottom United were playing at bottom club Barnet. One of them would be relegated come 5 o'clock.

Torquay promotion parade, May 2004

United's promotion parade in May 2004

I ummed and arred over whether my nerves could stand the strain before finally making a late decision to drive up to London. Anyway, to cut a long story short, by the time my sister and I arrived at Barnet, there was a sign near the ground saying: 'Underhill full.' We couldn't get in to see the match!

So we paced up and down outside the ground (we weren't the only ones), and listened to the goals go in. We heard us win 3-2 before driving back to Torquay to celebrate in the pub.

We were celebrating again when United won promotion on the last day of the season in 2003-4 - what a nice surprise that was. But relegation followed the very next season.

And in 2006, United again saved themselves from relegation with a 0-0 draw at home to Boston on the last day of the season.

It was awful, sitting through that game, just waiting for the final whistle to blow and hoping the other teams in the relegation scrap didn't win.

I watched it with my dad and at the end we said 'this can't keep happening.'

And we were right. This year, Torquay's luck ran out, leaving us with with a lifetime of memories.

I know United will still be playing football in the Conference, but it just won't be the same.

last updated: 09/08/07

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Are you a lifelong Torquay United supporter? Do you have any memories to share? Post your views here and read messages from other fans.

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Danny Margrain
I have fond memories of going to plainmoor in the early 1970s with my uncle and my cousin. I remember the strikers Les Lawrence and Willie Brown and the the defenders Ian Twichen and Pat Kruse. The latter scored the fastest own goal in league history (7 seconds)against Mansfield Town I believe. Anyway I was at the game standing in my usual place by the dugout. This would have been 1973-74 and i was 11 years of age. I loved the Torquay kit at the time. For me it was up there with the Ajax and Peru national kits as the best in the world. There was something special about the 7.30pm kick-offs in those days - the floodlights gave the ball a certain glean and the atmosphere was nearly always good. You could always here the away fans in the stand. The Stoke City fans particularly come to mind as do the Swansea fans during this time. Another highlight was the Gulls victory against the Hammers in the FA cup third round. It was one of Phil Parkes' last games in goal for the Hammers and the 1 nil defeat ensured that the manager at the time Lou Macari got the sack. I had mixed feelings about the Gulls victory however, because I have been a lifelong Hammers fan having moved to Torquay in 1973.

Pete Tidy
Eighty years in the league is a good run and many supporters such as myself can be proud of United's history going back as far as it does and lasting as long as it has. It is now to late for the inevitable post mortem, but we all have to take some responsibility for what has happened. The support has not been sufficient to provide insurance against relegation. Management and financial supervision has not been professional enough to prevent the demise of the club from the league. The challenge is now to improve in both areas and assure that United return to the league stronger, wiser and better supported than before. Your Saturday is to do what you will with, but if it does not include a weekly effort to show support in one of a variety of ways, we will stay in the conference. Get involved with the club in any way you can, that does not mean watching the game every week but take some pride in your club, find loyalty and passion, not ridicule and despair. Exhibit your support loud and often, then perhaps the S. Devon area will start to exhibit pride and respect for a soccer club than has languished too long with a sense inferiority and second ratedness. You have to believe to be a winner and you have to care about winning. Torquay United deserves MORE support than Manchester United. Give it up you locals!!! Go Gulls in 2007/08

BrianW (Fareham)
Well that was quick. Never let it be said that being a Gulls fan is boring."NEXT!"

BrianW (Fareham)
Good luck Leroy - good to have you back - keep your heads lads - wear the blue and gold with pride and work hard - League Two beckons!

will parker
we'll be back

mary page o.a.p!!
now recently moved to brisbane australia very sad having seen good old rosenoir parading the cup near my home in belgrave area some years ago. fitness here is of the most important matter. in uk its all about money at the top. good luck to all the gulls.

martin hayman torquay
i feel incredibly dissapointed that after 80 years of league football should be thrown away in six months by chris roberts and mike batson.in may 2004 after promotion i thought it was the start of a new era a torquay we could move forward and estblish ourselves in league 1 but instead of building on promotion we sell our best player david graham and get rid of our reserve team.the last 3 years have been a disgace we couldnt even fill the subs bench for some games this season.We have only 4 players under contract next season what hope have we got of attracting players now we are in the confrence. having supported torquay for 20 years from the great escape of 1987 i wounder if torquay will still exist in 20 years.

David Toop([email protected]) Canada
Memories of Bert Head,Derrick Davis and the immortal Reg Gardner. Torquay U will rise again!

alan merson, London N7
I've been a Gull for almost all of my 55 years and I personally don't feel sad, just flaming angry that after all this time battling the seemingly one sided war against demography, apathy and negativity; it is downright buffoonery in the boardroom that has done for us. The teams put out on the pitch over the past three years have been nothing short of a disgrace and a kick in the teeth to every genuine fan that the Batesons have treated with such disdain. Now we have the inevitable ruinous relegation and I just don't think half the fans realise just what a disaster this will turn out to be!

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