Does Australia appeal to you?

After the irreparable damage done to my country by Labour, yes, Australia does appeal. Unfortunately, I am too old.

One drawback if you move to Australia is that when you become entitled to your British state pension, it will be frozen at the rate at which it is first paid, unlike for British pensioners living in the UK and around 40 other countries around the world.

Peter Morris
President
British Australian Pensioner Association (BAPA)
www.britishpensions.org.au
www.pension-parity-uk.com

Living and working without a state pension as this guys says. petermorriscpa comment number 2.

Erm what country are you living in just now.. because do you see a state pension in the futer?

If i got offered the chance i wouldn't even pack! i would go the way i was just to get out of this rubbish dump of a country.
This country in 10 yrs will not be worth living in. theres nothing for kids!, adults have no jobs, and no where to sit and talk, no pubs clubs or dance halls left.
Look at what walks down the roads. stop seeing everything with Aunties glasses.
Go into small towns and see what you can't see!
who is doing all the work, wheres is all the money,
Who is paying rents?
But mostly why is there no swing parks without damage.
Why is Brtian not caring anymore?

I'd love to return to Australia, specifically South Australia when I travelled there in 2004, I found the areas more cleaner of waste, thriving regeneration, free space, more sporting opportunities and much friendlier people, not to mention a cheaper yet better standard of living all around. Sign me up!

To many poisonous critters for my tastes...

Though I would go for the diving, which is supposed to be awsome.

Yes but i wish they weren't so ageist. At 52 i don't think i'd stand much chance.
But surely if they can gat things right over there, with decent pensions and propoer work life balance, caring community, why can't we?
The answer, like in Europe, seems to be a more egalitarian society, with less inequality and lass disparity of wealth, and less personal greed.
Maybe we should be thinking of how to bring Australia over here, to help everyone and mend the ship, rather than thinking about whether we should, individually, cut and run, deserting the sinking ship like rats.
Maybe our decisions say more about us...

Where do I sign?

Work Life Balance !!!

Last week I returned from working in South Australia for one whole year.
There is no work life balance for professionals with the company for whom I worked. They are 20 years behind the UK. I worked 55 plus hours per week in ICT (indirectly for the Australian Government).
I was pressured to work weekends also. There was no reward nor recognition but only grudging acknowledgement for the many achievements accomplished. My UK employment was much more balanced and fulfilling.

Yes it's warmer and dryer and a friendly place. And I guess my employer might be exceptional in its tendency to exploit. But if you are bored in your job in the UK, don't assume it will be any different over there.

Try Europe instead!

My cousin moved to Australia and became a citizen there - she was given assistance by the gov to buy her own house and earns a good wage as a teacher. She moved abroad to avoid paying back her student loan and has absolutely no regrets.

I’ve been looking for a new job for ages and not had any luck locally so I have been looking at what’s in other countries. For my job industry America is ‘where it's at’ but I wouldn’t/couldn’t move there.
I also wouldn't move abroad to a country where I couldn't speak the language, I just wouldn't be comfortable, but Canada or New Zealand definitely appeal way more than Aussie Land.

Unfortunately I am too old, or I would go in a heartbeat

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Do you hate the country you were born in?

Do you never tire of moaning how rubbish it is to be British?

Do you believe that Britain is the 'laugthing stock of the world' even though it isn'nt?

In short do you agree with everything the Daily Mail has ever said about how utterly awful your native country is?

Well today is your lucky day - The BBC wants to hear from you about why you hate your country!

Simply send your anti-patriotic rantings to BBC HYS and we'll publish it on an international forum so the whole world can see how much you despise the country of your ancestors!

Extra points for comparing the UK to Zimbabwe, Somalia or Afghanistan!

Bonus extra points for displaying a little more originality.

Well now. We wouldn't ever want anyone how was born in the UK to leave. That would make them immigrants (or technically emmigrants I suppose) and we all know that immigrants are the source of all problems, ever.

So, in order to be consistent with our past comments, we would have to simply refuse and live where we were born until we die even if we think we might have a better standard of life elsewhere.

Am I a bored Brit? - Sometimes.

Do I get fed up with the weather? - Sometimes.

Do I get fed up with high taxes and long hours? - well, yes.

But, call me stupid, or call me a sucker, other than holidays, I will never, ever leave my country.

I Love England along with everyone and everything in it.

Have a nice day everyone!

I'd love to go be a koala catcher, but am apparently too old. Those koalas must be more spritely than they look.

10. At 12:21pm on 10 Aug 2010, Charlie Patey wrote:
She moved abroad to avoid paying back her student loan and has absolutely no regrets
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Australia still welcomes crooks then?

6. At 12:17pm on 10 Aug 2010, John from Poole wrote:
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Maybe we should be thinking of how to bring Australia over here, to help everyone and mend the ship, rather than thinking about whether we should, individually, cut and run, deserting the sinking ship like rats.


Where I work, Australia is over here! working in IT I'm in a minority of non-Aussies/Kiwis. I certainly don't begrudge them though as they're the nicest people you could meet.

12. At 12:25pm on 10 Aug 2010, Nok wrote:
Do you hate the country you were born in?

Do you never tire of moaning how rubbish it is to be British?

Do you believe that Britain is the 'laugthing stock of the world' even though it isn'nt?

In short do you agree with everything the Daily Mail has ever said about how utterly awful your native country is?

Well today is your lucky day - The BBC wants to hear from you about why you hate your country!

Simply send your anti-patriotic rantings to BBC HYS and we'll publish it on an international forum so the whole world can see how much you despise the country of your ancestors!

Extra points for comparing the UK to Zimbabwe, Somalia or Afghanistan!

Bonus extra points for displaying a little more originality.
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Lots of people around the world do exactly the same, it's known as emigration or immigration, depending on your viewpoint.

Should everyone stay put, or is it just the Brits you're so scathing about?

If I were younger I would be off there like a shot. This country is finished, done in, ravaged by class war, over-run by non contributing immigrants and bled dry by scrounging welfare benefit cheats.

We cannot even plan a barbeque more than three days beforehand because of the terrible weather.

After the complete catasthrophy of the labour party - I would live anywhere other than this mess.

My daughter recently moved to Melbourne to take up a job in the university. She says that it isn't idyllic, the houses are very expensive and somethings are more costly that the UK but on average it's quite a nice place, and the people are quite friendly.

Although she is a professional her partner isn't. He is struggling to find a well payed job, his UK qualifications are not recognised.

Although her initial job offer was for two years my wife and I are resigned to it becoming permanent, certainly if you look at the situation in the UK it seems that way.

Still will be nice for holidays. My wife has already sent my application off for a shark wrangler, I would prefer to collect kangeroo muck (I am currently doing the same job - for free - on my daughters partner's geriatric dog).

I was once told that OZ is a young persons country, I don't care, anything would be better than last winter.

Maybe the benefits agency could/should fill in a load of applications for UK jobseekers.

Having been born there, I do hope to move back one day. I went back-packing for a year in 2001 and loved it - the weather, the optimism, the outdoor life - the only trouble is I don't think my profession is on the 'approved' list of things they're looking for. However I made some enquiries a few years ago and was assured that as long as I can support myself, they have to approve my application because it's my birthplace. Does anyone know if this is right?

Beer taster? I wonder how many young men [and maybe young women too] are rushing to sign on the dotted line?

Having been born there, I do hope to move back one day. I went back-packing for a year in 2001 and loved it - the weather, the optimism, the outdoor life - the only trouble is I don't think my profession is on the 'approved' list of things they're looking for. However when I looked into it a few years ago I was assured that as long as I can support myself, they'll approve my application because it's my birthplace. Does anyone know if this is right?

I have no regrets living in England now that Brown & Co are gone and, given time, I think that the coalition will improve our lot.

I would love to emigrate to Australia, I like their attitude as well as their climate, but alas, I would probably be too old. On the other hand, I being an ideal citizen, no criminal record, work hard and try to buy everything produced by the country I live in, could be an advantage to the Aussie economy. So, I would like an invite to move to your lovely country, how's about it you Aussie's?

Does South Australia offer more exciting work and travel options than anywhere else in the world?

YES

New Zealand is far more appealing. Australia is full of too many Brits, and I cannot stand the Aussie mentality.

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I can't wait for the Sun and The Daily Mail headline about all these british immigrants heading for austrlia.

and where are the normal anti immigration HYS brigade whats their opinion on these people going to australia to wanting to start a new life

I like/love Britain, for all its faults/problems/issues it has so much going for it that only the ignorant and evidentially stupid and negative biased people cannot see.

You'd think Australia has no poor people, no drunks, no drug addicts no pedophiles, no rapists, no car crime, no racial problems.

It takes a lot of guts to seek work and up stakes and move somewhere else in the world, tempory or totally, whether Australia or elswhere, hence most of those who are so negative about UK and remain here are in my opinion basically gutless cowardly muppets of an order lower than something smelly attatched to the bottom of a shoe not unlike "roo poo", which unlike and at least with "roo poo", has a use and positive contribution.

Well said paul2002, concerning the working practice, the long hours was certainly something i experienced in my 6 years living there. I am pretty sure i read somewhere that they have the longest average working hours in the so called westernised world!!!
I have an Australian wife and it's a great place to visit
BUT believe me Australia is not the paradise the Australian propaganda board makes it out to be, the fact that they are still having to launch huge campaigns to entice people to their shores should back this up!!!

AND guess what they don't all have pools, in fact i knew of nobody who did, and they don't all spend their free time walking along beautiful white sandy beaches, and to be be honest i have had more BBQ's since we moved back to the UK!!!!

I'm sure there is a reason why the majority of people who emigrate out there return home within 2 years I think the figure a few years ago was something like 2/3's!!!! Thus Hence the need for more campaigns like the one mentioned above............

Life in Australia is pretty much like life in the UK, they still moan about the price of petrol, house prices, crime, taxes, price of living, crikey they even moan about the weather in Melbourne!!!!!......the only real differnece is they moan about it in a silly accent!!!!!!!!!!!!

28. At 12:45pm on 10 Aug 2010, Davidethics wrote:
Does South Australia offer more exciting work and travel options than anywhere else in the world?

YES

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BYE, SEE YA, DONT WANNA BE YA!!!!!!

Or are you just a keyboard jockey!!!!!

Interesting that South Australia are running this campaign at the same time as, leading up to an election, the federal politicians are busy talking about 'turning back the boats' of asylum seekers and stoking the fires of fear regarding immigration numbers. It seems that not much has changed in Australia since the days of the White Australia Policy. The policy may have gone, but the practice is largely unchanged. I hear no complaints in the Australian press about the number of Britons immigrating, but I know of whole suburbs dominated by Brits who have gone to try for a better life in Oz. It's just a pity you can't do the same if you are fleeing persecution!

I went to Australia in the early 1970's with my parents - we came back two years later - the reason being the amount of discrimination that there is against the British which the Australians think is acceptable towards the British but not to other racial groups - the term pom or prisoner of her majesty is often a term not used in jest as the Australians like us to think but has real malice and hate behind it.

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I'd sure like to see the success rate on this one:
WORKING HOLIDAY VISA! Working, holiday - can't even fit these words side by side in my little brain.
Anyway, I'm not lured by these unusual jobs; in fact, I'd have to do too much research on vital things like the effect on my pensions. Maybe this is why the recruitment is aimed at young people - nothing to worry about except getting the job and making money.
The jobs being offered, even the beer taster, sound rather hum-drum over the long-run; they certainly don't bespeak of a "career" path. To what can a koala catcher aspire - a kangaroo catcher? Does the beer-taster graduate to hard whiskey?
The only "gift" from this Australian thrust is bringing to light the feelings of British workers - 60% bored with their jobs, rarely pushed outside their comfort zone, 71% said they never had an opportunity to escape the office. Seems to me as though it's the British Government that ought to take action. A bored, unhappy work-force is not likely being pushed towards maximum production; so, options should be looked at - like employees having shares in the company, even owning the company, quality circles that manage themselves and receive a %'age of the profit.
In the meantime, Bill Muirhead, how's the Australian plan working for you "downunder"?

"There are job adverts for ... a shark personality profiler at Port Lincoln ..."

There's always a vacany as for that position.

Every past profiler's mysteriously disappeared while the shark with the meanest personality's been gaining weight.

19. At 12:35pm on 10 Aug 2010, Graham wrote:
If I were younger I would be off there like a shot. This country is finished, done in, ravaged by class war, over-run by non contributing immigrants and bled dry by scrounging welfare benefit cheats.

We cannot even plan a barbeque more than three days beforehand because of the terrible weather.

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So, you need sunshine & no rain to have a barbeque. A backbone would also help!!!!

What Peter Morris, of the British Australian Pensioner Association, fails to tell is that a) British state pension is worth peanuts and b) ozzie super can be worth a fortune in retirement!

Oz might be full of sexists and racists but it's still a breath of fresh air in comparison to blighty. NZ is appealing too, but wages are paltry in comparison to its rich neighbour (hence the trans-Tasman brain drain)

Those that have never been to oz should picture themselves sat by the Yarra, washing down some King Island cheese with a glass of McLaren Vale shiraz. Certainly beats a 3 pound pint of Carling from some naff gastropub on Clapham high street!

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Last time the Australians had an immigrant drive like this it lead to mass immigration to the UK, although that scheme was much larger in scale than this one.

During the 1940s the British and Australian governments were worried that Australia was becoming less British due to the number of Asians moving to the country after World War Two and so started the mass migration of Ten Pound Poms which ultimately lead to over a million British people migrating to Australia between the 1940s and 1970s.

These migrants together with the tens of thousands of other British migrants who moved to Canada, the United States and a few other countries is what lead to the post-war labour shortage in Britain which in turn lead to the British government encouraging migrants from the former British colonies to move to Britain as a part of the Windrush generation.

In effect, the British government encouraged British people to move to former member states of the Empire to help maintain cultural and political ties to Britain and then brought in tens of thousands of migrants to fill the gap left by them and in doing so changed the racial, social, political and religious landscape of Britain forever.

I wonder what the unintended consequences of this scheme will be…

15. At 12:31pm on 10 Aug 2010, Jaywat wrote:
I'd love to go be a koala catcher, but am apparently too old. Those koalas must be more spritely than they look
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They also have a serious problem with VD, which has been quite destructive to Koala populations.

Like the image of Australia, NOT all is as perfect as it looks/seems.

Some of you are so amusing in your belief it is all rosey.

For those runing away from Labour devistated UK: you are running into the arms of soon-to-be-Labor-devistated Australia. Unfortunately my fellow countrymen lost there minds and killed the golden goose by voting in exactly what we put up with here in the UK for the past 13 years. Soon (and especially if the next election goes to Labor) expect the coffers to be empty.

As for the work/life balance; ignore what you are told. It's exactly the same as here. I've worked a considerable time in both countries.

Australians are no friendlier than Brits.

And the weather? Well, if you hate the cold and snow you'll soon learn to hate the heat - fine for a holiday but when you have to actually work then it's no laughing matter.

However, the one thing I will give Australia over the UK is space. Homes are still a decent size. However, I counter that with Internet access still being in the Dark Ages and you'll pay through the nose for high bandwidth.

Anyway, I guess I'm lucky; I'm a dual national so I can live in either - and both are better than America!

People are often attracted to emigrate by the notion that 'the grass is greener on the other side'...but the truth is it's only when people actually move to another country that they realise that it is simply not the case.

For example, one popular myth is that general living costs in Australia are much cheaper than Britain - not so. In fact, Australia can actually be significantly more expensive for certain things, including general groceries, and as it is very hot through the summer months the average family will spend a small fortune on keeping their homes cool with air-conditioning. I could go on.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not slating Australia and I don't think it is a worse place to live than Britain...just that you can draw significant negatives from both countries.

Also, anyone who thinks that Britain is a 'dump', as some posters are professing, obviously doesn't step outside some of the squalid towns/cities that inevitably blot the landscapes of many different countries. There are thousands of square miles of british countryside that stunning and relively untouched - cornwall, exmoor, lake district, peak district, highlands and Islands of scotland to name a few. I suggest you try exploring your own country more.

I love visiting Australia. I have visted Australia on a number of occasions since 1999. I even got married to my wonderful wife in Australia. Would I live and work there? At age 46 years, I am a little too old to qualify but if I could live and work there, I might just do so. I still haven't got Australia out of my system and probably never will. But let's be clear, the realities of living and working in Australia will be very different from holidaying in Australia. So there is a need to be prepared to accept the rough with the smooth. Also, I would not live and work in Australia to, as it were, "spite" my home country, the UK. We moan and groan about the UK all too easily and all too readily but in the grand scheme of things, it ain't such a bad country to live in and be a part of. It ain't such a bad country to be proud of too.

Another bonus, Australia has an atheist PM
Yes as an unemployed person it really does but i also have 4 kids who are doing extremely well at school, partially due to the extra coaching they recieve from me as im not working but my wife and i have considered it.

michael caine once said that he lived in LA for 8 years but he missed the rain. I'm sure I'd have the same feeling. I'll stay here thanks

30. At 12:48pm on 10 Aug 2010, pzero wrote:
"So it's either Australia or wait for this country to become an Islamic Republic and then be kicked out or become muslim.

When does the plane leave?"

Please tell me such comments are a joke?? Whatever the Daily Mail tells you, I will personally guarantee my own savings that the UK will never become an Islamic state, and such comments are terribly ignorant scaremongering. Although, if this means that people such as pzero will leave the country then I guess it can only be a good thing for the rest of us.

I have a good few friends in Australia but, from what they tell me, it is a country that is at least 25 years behind the UK in so many important things. It is expensive; racist; devoid of any cultural merit; insular; and will never be a world player. However, I will be visiting there in a couple of months so will decide for myself. Britain, on the other hand, despite its many problems, is one of the greatest places on earth - never forget that! I think I'll stay.

3. At 12:12pm on 10 Aug 2010, Ossie wrote:
Living and working without a state pension as this guys says. petermorriscpa comment number 2.

Erm what country are you living in just now.. because do you see a state pension in the futer?

If i got offered the chance i wouldn't even pack! i would go the way i was just to get out of this rubbish dump of a country.
This country in 10 yrs will not be worth living in. theres nothing for kids!, adults have no jobs, and no where to sit and talk, no pubs clubs or dance halls left.
Look at what walks down the roads. stop seeing everything with Aunties glasses.
Go into small towns and see what you can't see!
who is doing all the work, wheres is all the money,
Who is paying rents?
But mostly why is there no swing parks without damage.
Why is Brtian not caring anymore?

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I am just guessing now, but are you a slug or snake, do you not have a backbone to help you stand up and see a bit further than your 2 dimensional short sighted world.

Maybe...........

Should've gone to Specsavers.

The chance is there, take it, I am sure you can adequately harvest "roo poo" for a living, and maybe they might let you take some home so you can ponder over its negative/positive merits!!!!

Hilarious the people saying that because there are too many foreigners in Britain now they would like to up sticks and go to a country where EVERYONE is foreign!

D'oh!

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Having travelled to Oz in 2006 I can definitely see the appeal. Warm climate, relaxed atmosphere, friendly locals etc all make Australia a decent place to live but its worth bearing in mind what its like to work there. Imagine walking to work in 40o+ heat. Yes offices have air con but its still fairly uncomfortable with a tie on. They have constant droughts due to their long summers and bush fires are a real danger, even around the major cities.

Cities like Melbourne and Adelaide are fantastic, but equally cities in this country like Leeds and Birmingham have undergone massive central regeneration.

Australia is definitely a great place to live, and I would thoroughly recommend it but people should consider the full implications of living there before going. Having a holiday is not the same as living and working there and the slump after a hard day's work will not disappear just because there's a few more green spaces around.

"10. At 12:21pm on 10 Aug 2010, Charlie Patey wrote:
My cousin moved to Australia and became a citizen there ... She moved abroad to avoid paying back her student loan and has absolutely no regrets."

Excellent, another skiving scrounger has left the country. Well done Australia!

Maybe this recruitment drive is because so many Aussies have escaped from their enticing life as a "roo poo" harvestor and other highly paid "jobs" .

A reason why you have a swimming pool in Australia is so you can put out the fires that threaten to burn your home down.

A swimming pool in Australia is basically like having a fire blanket in your kitchen in UK.

37. At 12:58pm on 10 Aug 2010, MrWonderfulReality wrote:

Daily, hope you get on it, but I think you will not, because I dont think you have the courage, its one thing being ALL mouthy, its another to NOT be a muppet hypocrite.
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God you have no idea how much I wish I could afford the ticket just to get away from people like you! Do you have anything good to say about anything? Exactly the sort of person that gets this country a bad name - hang on a minute, you are not Australian really are you?

25. At 12:41pm on 10 Aug 2010, DansLeDoute wrote:
"Having been born there, I do hope to move back one day. I went back-packing for a year in 2001 and loved it - the weather, the optimism, the outdoor life - the only trouble is I don't think my profession is on the 'approved' list of things they're looking for. However when I looked into it a few years ago I was assured that as long as I can support myself, they'll approve my application because it's my birthplace. Does anyone know if this is right?"

This is a common type of comment with a serious flaw - unless you have lived and worked in a country for a sustained period of time (2+ years or so) you really do not have a clue what it's like as your average citizen. People go on holidays to places and see it with rose-tinted glasses because they simply select of the 'best bits' for their visit.

I travelled to New Zealand for a few weeks a couple of years ago and had a great time. In fact, I had such a great time I looked into moving out there. That was until a friends brother gave me a dose of reality - he lives in Auckland becuase it's the best place to find reasonably paid work, only thing is he's living in a part of the city that's rife with gang culture, including shootings and stabbings. He can't yet afford to live anywhere else near work in the city, so he's stuck there until he can save enough to move.

The point is - EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY ON THE PLANET HAS IT'S PROBLEMS AND THE GRASS IS NEVER GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE.

If you have money you can go wherever you want at any age. However, turning up at the airport/dockside with a backpack and no means of supporting yourself, then you are back on the plane/ship.

As for moving away from the UK, anything over 26 deg is uncomfortable for me, I have had job offers in the states but declined them. However, Australia does sound appealing, I have friends who moved and they are loving it, if after the months of holiday mood you are still able to say it was the best option then you've won, there are many people after this period that have returned losing £1000's. Also remember once you have left for a number of years and want to return, unless you made your fortunes your lifestyle will be very much lower.

42. At 1:03pm on 10 Aug 2010, Pugin

The government has through its elected leadership, stated categorically that if an individual or number of like minded people do not like the Australian way, and its culture and laws, then leave and return to your homeland, or to a country that practices the culture in which you wish to live.
You were not invited here to Australia, your presence will not be missed so go.
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If only we could find some politicians with some guts to say the same thing in this counrty, and act upon it!!!

@ number 3 - absolutely right, I left the UK in 1998 for a better life then had to return to take care of family matters in 2005, i have now moved back to where i now consider home, if you get the chance to go and live abroad, yes there are adjustments to make but overall you are likely to have a better life.

I love Britain for what it was, not what it has become and there is no way it can be changed back now.

Sad but true.

Am I too old at 55? Have to check.

19. At 12:35pm on 10 Aug 2010, Graham wrote:
"If I were younger I would be off there like a shot. This country is finished, done in, ravaged by class war, over-run by non contributing immigrants and bled dry by scrounging welfare benefit cheats.

We cannot even plan a barbeque more than three days beforehand because of the terrible weather."

People should really stop reading nothing but the Daily Mail. The reality is that the people you refer to above equate to a tiny fraction of the population. This country is actually full of decent, hard-working and law-abiding people...and I include the majority of immigrants in that statement. I know this because I come across these people day to day far more than I do the scum you refer to. For your information, every single country on the planet will have a minority of people that will contribute nothing and take everything...don't think for a second that the grass is greener on the other side.

Good news. There seem to be a lot of folks on HYS who enjoy moaning about how the UK is a terrible country at every possible opportunity. So, now is your big chance to show you are serious and get about as far away from it as you can.

Bye.

53 wrote - Hilarious the people saying that because there are too many foreigners in Britain now they would like to up sticks and go to a country where EVERYONE is foreign!

What makes you think that moving to another country has anything to do with Britain being full of foreiners? most ex pats move because they get a better life and standard of living and pay less tax too.

If you want the real point of the matter, look to the welfare state, that is probably the number 1 cause of Britains malaise and it will never go now, you're stuck with it mate.

42. At 1:03pm on 10 Aug 2010, Pugin wrote:
YES.

Because the United-Kingdom has to put it bluntly but totally truthfully too many illegal immigrants, and peoples of ethnic backgrounds that are not compatible to the English way of life, which has been eroded and battered by this multi cultural rubbish.


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I wonder native Aboriginal people say about all the british and other immigrants that have taken their country

12. At 12:25pm on 10 Aug 2010, Nok wrote:
"Do you hate the country you were born in?

Do you never tire of moaning how rubbish it is to be British?

Do you believe that Britain is the 'laugthing stock of the world' even though it isn'nt?

In short do you agree with everything the Daily Mail has ever said about how utterly awful your native country is?

Well today is your lucky day - The BBC wants to hear from you about why you hate your country!

Simply send your anti-patriotic rantings to BBC HYS and we'll publish it on an international forum so the whole world can see how much you despise the country of your ancestors!

Extra points for comparing the UK to Zimbabwe, Somalia or Afghanistan!

Bonus extra points for displaying a little more originality."

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Very, very , very well said Nok.

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For everyone moaning about Australia - it's about working holidays mainly, and 18 - 30 year olds, from what I can see.

14. At 12:29pm on 10 Aug 2010, Feel_Bad_Factor wrote:
Am I a bored Brit? - Sometimes.

Do I get fed up with the weather? - Sometimes.

Do I get fed up with high taxes and long hours? - well, yes.

But, call me stupid, or call me a sucker, other than holidays, I will never, ever leave my country.

I Love England along with everyone and everything in it.

Have a nice day everyone!

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Well said, lad.

You recognize what many others seem to have forgotten or overlooked. It's not only tangible things like a country's weather, or taxes, or hours that make it great. It's the intangible ones such as it's people, personal connection, family ties to the country, and opportunities that make it appealing.

The fact that many whiners only see the first and not the latter is often a prelude for disappointment later on.

I would love to work abroad for a while, we have a lot of foreign nationals at our company (mainly French and German as we have offices there) and I am very jealous their life experience and exposure to different culture not to mention the language abilities.

Australia does appeal as does the States (it's a lot nicer there than people who have never visited tend to believe, myself included). Obviously any country where you speak the language already is an advantage. Alternatively I adore South America or heading over to a completely different culture in Asia would be interesting.

The jobs announced by the Australian government however hold no interest and seem to be clearly targeted at the young who have not started a career yet, I would only move to another country for a job that I would be willing to do in the UK, i.e. something that uses my skills and experience

3. At 12:12pm on 10 Aug 2010, Ossie wrote:
Living and working without a state pension as this guys says. petermorriscpa comment number 2.

Erm what country are you living in just now.. because do you see a state pension in the futer?
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Yes, Ossie, there is a state pension in the future. The National Insurance Fund which pays out all state pensions has a surplus in it of over £45 billion, so don't let politicians' lies convince you that the state pension is not affordable.

I have lived in both South Australia and the UK and both have their good points and their bad points.

Another poster thinks that leaving the UK will solve his/her problems but quite frankly, there are issues with any country. People get cheesed off with the Australian government and bureaucracy just as much as Brits do with the UK government and bureaucracy. It is different but it is just the same.

16. At 12:32pm on 10 Aug 2010, frankiecrisp wrote:
10. At 12:21pm on 10 Aug 2010, Charlie Patey wrote:
She moved abroad to avoid paying back her student loan and has absolutely no regrets
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Australia still welcomes crooks then?
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Shh! they don't like to take about that!

@#3

You seem to have an especially negative view on the country, I live in a small town and it's lovely, granted there isn't a huge amount to do without travelling to a larger city (no cinema, bowling etc) and although we have 2 clubs they are not places you would want to go if you are over 25 or have a brain. However, there are some lovely pubs a couple of nice parks (with working swings), interesting little shops and most importantly very kind and friendly people. I have only been there 6 months and can not walk down the street with people I've met stopping me for a chat.

You see the world you want to see, England is not that bad and everywhere else is not so much better.

To Pugin, who wrote in at 1:03pm:

What repugnant comments. What about the true native Australians – the Aborgines – who lived there for 40,000+ years? Shouldn’t their culture and laws be regarded the “Australian way”? They didn’t invite white settlers to their country. These settlers invaded their country, tried to wipe them out and now, to add insult to injury, they claim that Australia is their country and do not welcome anyone who has different beliefs. Hypocrisy on a truly grand scale.

For those wondering about being too old, you are if you are between 45 and 55, but then you can get a retirement visa for four years, renewable every two years

You need AU$750K, health insurance from an Australian company, and no convictions.

At least those were the rules a few years ago.


Alternatively, you can go there for three months at a shot for as long as you like.

If Australia is so great why is London and Dublin full of Australians?

51. At 1:11pm on 10 Aug 2010, eddieburnham wrote:
I have a good few friends in Australia but, from what they tell me, it is a country that is at least 25 years behind the UK in so many important things. It is expensive; racist; devoid of any cultural merit; insular; and will never be a world player...

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Except for the expensive and racist descriptions, it sounds pretty much like Walsall.
But I spent my early years in Walsall, and loved it and the people. And despite living far from it for many years since then, I still do.
Oz can't be that bad, then.

@MrWonderful

My back is almost broken after carrying all the scroungers and immigrants in the UK. Fortunately I have enough money to spend most of my time away from here. The only backbone I want to see is the one off the baramuni thats just off the barbi.

I spent nine months out in Australia years ago when I was young enough to get a working holiday visa and just picked up casual temping work to fund my trip. It was a great experience, particularly exploring the Northern Territories and Queensland but I knew I couldn't live there because believe it or not there was a lot I missed about the UK, including the seasons, crisp Autumn nights etc.. the winter climate in the Southern states is pretty bland and its not all year round sun. The advantage of living there is that you get far more for your money with property then you do here.

No! Imagine having to listen to that appalling accent every day of your life - and being complained about for being a "pom" too.

I'd rather go to France or Germany, thanks!

No, Australia does not appeal to me; but, I do admire their stance on keeping their sovereign, christian country for themselves and their hard fought christian values and not others who would seek to reside there, benefit from their position in this most friendly of nations whilst at the same time trying to impose upon the native Australians such things as Sharia Law.

It's a pity that such steps do not also prevail in the UK.

Australia is a great country to live in - however, the question lies in the future of the country. Afterall, population problems have always been at the subject of debate there.

Dam right it does, if you want to see where this country is going just look at the BBC, it's full of Islamic and ethnic diversity, it's now a constant drone that is like some sort of PC tinnitus designed to brain wash us all, and we are so overcrowded with those who hate us yet like all the free money there's no where to escape the mess, this country is sunk, and to think my dear old gramp's fought and died for this shower. Oh sorry I said the I word again, were only meant to look without noticing such things these days arn't we, anything else means I'm a white racist.

If Oz is so wonderful, why do I meet so many Aussies here whose main interest seems to be complaining about the weather?

Britain is now Chav central and I can't wait to retire to a civilised country - but it won't be Australia

I worked with a guy who emigrated to New Zealand with his wife and daughter, his wife's sister and her NZ husband. The sister-in-law who liked the highlife, hated it and they all came home after less than a year, saying the place was dull.

So it's not all it's cracked up to be.

Still this alledgedly true story makes me think I would enjoy OZ.

An Englishman visiting OZ found himself in an old gold-mining town prior to coming home. He wanted a present for his daughter, who like him was a devout christian. Passing a jewelers he got the idea to buy a crucifix made with locally mined gold. He went into the shop and asked the young female assistant if they had a gold crucifix, she said they had two...

"One is plain and the other has a little man on it"

My kind of country.........

After the horrors I have read about the internet filtering and a firewall following the footsteps of china I dont think I will bother (I need the internet for my work). Apart from that it sounds nice if they were to open the doors for us to move there perminently.

Ive got the visa and packing my bags in January. See ya suckers! I'll write - let you know if it lives up to expectations.

No place like home. I wouldn't go there even if they paid me.... unless its a few million quid.

Australia is going through its worst drought, so its not the utopia that some like to make us think it is...

I moved to Pembrokeshire as its SO beautiful here and I can be back at the family home in just over 3 hours by car... if I wanted to go. Half way round the world, you just cant get in your car and pop home.

71. At 1:35pm on 10 Aug 2010, Muhammad Zaman wrote:
14. At 12:29pm on 10 Aug 2010, Feel_Bad_Factor wrote:
Am I a bored Brit? - Sometimes.

Do I get fed up with the weather? - Sometimes.

Do I get fed up with high taxes and long hours? - well, yes.

But, call me stupid, or call me a sucker, other than holidays, I will never, ever leave my country.

I Love England along with everyone and everything in it.

Have a nice day everyone!

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Well said, lad.

You recognize what many others seem to have forgotten or overlooked. It's not only tangible things like a country's weather, or taxes, or hours that make it great. It's the intangible ones such as it's people, personal connection, family ties to the country, and opportunities that make it appealing.

The fact that many whiners only see the first and not the latter is often a prelude for disappointment later on.
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I agree with both of you wholeheartedly. The rolling hills of Devon or the vales of Somerset on a late summers evening as the sun touches the horizon, beer and ciggie in hand. The sight of rolling fields with dotted thatched roofs, the sounds cows mooing, of trees swaying and the distant meandering of the rivers, that warm breeze and the smell of dry grass and willow is unbeatable, the distant rumble of a tractor engine and owls hooting in the copses. There is no where on earth that will ever compare.

I love England.....

Australia has a lot going for it. One of the best is that they insist that all incomers become Australian and they take no nonsense from religious nut jobs.

Apart from the fact I'm probably too old to get a ticket I have no intention of leaving England or giving up the fight for English freedom.

My son emigrated to Australia four years ago and I suspect he will never return to the UK. So far as I am concerned I feel that I, and the country,have been robbed.
My wife and I brought him up and put him through university; all the the benefit of Australia! He is an IT specialist.
So far as numbers are concerned, he will be replaced within the UK population by a relatively uneducated immigrant.
When is the nonsense going to end? What does the government intend doing to staunch the haemorrhage?

80. At 1:49pm on 10 Aug 2010, Graham wrote:
@MrWonderful

My back is almost broken after carrying all the scroungers and immigrants in the UK. Fortunately I have enough money to spend most of my time away from here. The only backbone I want to see is the one off the baramuni thats just off the barbi.

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We don't miss you.

Spent a month there and loved it. You can be as foul mouthed and non PC as you like. The sun always shines and the lifestyle was fantastic. People are just so repressed and up themselves in the UK. Fully intend to retire there ASAP.

Theoldmoaner - 'Labor' is in control here now as well.
Philip - Lots of things to kill you in the seas as well as on
the land here.
Everyone else - I have to say that the old adage of the 'grass being
greener' applies. I am your typical whinging pom and
I actually look back misty-eyed at all the rain and
wind....

But I really do miss me mates. Although we keep in
occasional touch by skype or e-mail, I haven't had
a pint with them in over 7 years. That's a long time.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't recommend coming here for the sun or the beaches (everyone detests summer here, and for good reason).

I'm full of adages tonight but just to finish with another one: The one thing that you cannot leave behind is of course, yourself.

My advice is to give England a 'fair' go (or a 'fair shake of the sauce bottle, if you prefer..!).

Has anyone on this site ever heard of rose tinted glasses? It is not as simple as Australia is great and Britain is not - it is extremely niave to believe that England has 'gone to the dogs' and the rest of the world is just fine!

Australia has its problems too which include immigration issues and fairly recently riots, a government that is constantly having to apologise to the native australians, news stories that native australians get drunk on petrol, more apologising, lack of pensions and benefits, a substantial amount of inherent racism etc.

They are also not offering you a life there - these are working holiday visa jobs and you will be forced out after your alloted time and told to then fit with their points system which doesn't even let you in if all but 3 of your family live there.

I wouldn't at any point say Britain was perfect but I have spent a lot of time in Oz and it's not perfect either.

Get a grip and look around you - not everything here is bad; sometimes your glass needs to be half full.

FORGET ABOUT AUSTRALIA :

KILLER FAUNA (Sharks;even spiders can kill you)

HIGH UV /TEMPERATURES-Cancer ,Fires

SURROUNDED BY HOSTILE NEIGHBOURS

After the irreparable damage done to my country by Labour, yes, Australia does appeal. Unfortunately, I am too old.

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Australia has higher income taxes for normal income earners than the UK

A higher cost of living than the UK

Lower average rates of pay than the UK

Higher Capital Gains Tax and VAT rates (at the moment) than the UK

Incidentally the Australian tax authorities will also tax you on your UK income if you are resident in Australia

It does have better weather (if you like droughts and baking heat)in some areas, it also has the largest range of venomous insects,spiders and snakes to be found anywhere in the World, many of whom you will find sharing your house!

The unemployment rate is lower,which is fortunate as if you own a home worth over £150,000 and become unemployed you won't get any welfare payments but will be expected to fend for yourself.

I will not be signing up to move but it seems a nice enough place to visit provided you don't get mugged, violent crime rates including Murder are also higher than in the UK

No. For all its faults I'd still rather stay in England; I like it here.