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Tuesday, 12 November, 2002, 16:47 GMT
Green Goddesses prepare for strike
A Green Goddess refuels
Fuelled up: A Green Goddess is readied for action
Senior police, fire and military personnel are finalising the contingency plans to deal with the firefighters' strike in Wales from Wednesday evening.

A total of 40 Green Goddess military fire engines are being prepared to take the place of more than 200 specialist fire service machines.

A Green Goddess refuels
Firefighter: A Green Goddess tender

Once the strike begins at 1800 GMT on Wednesday, 999 calls will be put through to police control rooms in Carmarthen, Bridgend or Colwyn Bay.

The police, helped by senior fire officers, will coordinate their resources, with the RAF staffing machines in much of west and north Wales.

The first 48-hour stoppage is the first firefighters' strike to hit the UK for 25 years.

Rank-and-file fire officers say they have no option but to strike.

Fire Brigades Union representative Neil MacPherson said the union anticipated that the government would stick to the recommendations of the independent review headed by Sir George Bain.


Due to the attitude of both the employers and the government we have been left with no choice in this matter

Neil MacPherson Fire Bridges Union

He dismissed claims his members had rejected an 11% pay offer.

"We haven't been offered 11% - we've been offered 4% this and 7% next year, which we could have arrived at through the normal negotiating procedures," he told BBC Wales.

"Coupled to that, there are strings attached to the offer which would result in fewer firefighters and a greater risk to the public.

"We had no option but to reject that offer."

He said there was "sadness" among firefighters that they had been forced into tacking industrial action.

"It's something that we have tried to avoid all along - something that every firefighter does reluctantly.

"But unfortunately due to the attitude of both the employers and the government we have been left with no choice in this matter."

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Mike Smith, of the executive council for Wales for the Fire Brigades Union, said the union had grave doubts that Sir George was truly independent of the government.

He said rank-and-file fire officers would leave their posts on Wednesday evening with 'very heavy hearts'.

"They are very angry with what has happened and the way that George Bain has rubbished the fire service."

Wales's three fire service have each issued a telephone number people can ring for more information on how to protect themselves:

Mid and West Wales 24-hour helpline - 01267 223044/229286.

South Wales Fire Service home safety helpline - 0800 328 1830.

North Wales Community Fire Safety Team - 01745 343431.

South Wales Fire Service has issued advice to people on how to reduce the risk of a blaze in their home.

It said : "It will be imperative that the public develops a sense of caution towards their own personal safety during this period - extra vigilance will be necessary.

"The maxim that 'prevention is better than cure' is very appropriate for householders.

"We are all aware of how easily a fire can start, and it is wise to pay extra attention.

Cardiff council has cancelled a firework display to mark the start of the Network Q Rally which begins in the city on Thursday evening.

It has also cancelled a Christmas lights' switch-on event but the rally itself will go ahead as planned.

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Are firefighters right or wrong to take industrial action for the first time in 25 years?

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It is a disgrace that the firefighters are willing to put innocent lives on the line for better pay. I firmly believe that they should receive a fair wage but how will they justify their actions to a mother or father who has just lost their children in a fire? Not one of my friends and colleagues support the strike in any way! The fire fighters really are not doing themselves any favours.
Adrian Smith, Wales

40% pay when they only work for 5% of their shift- and should they really put themselves in so much danger- risk assessment and all that. If someone dies when the fire service's presece could avoid it- I'm afraid they will never get my support
Nick, Wales

How much are firefighters and emergency control staff worth? Why not ask one of the thousands of people this year who have been helped by the fire service, either through being rescued by firefighters,or by being given life saving advice when trapped in a blazing house by emergency control room staff. Those people, I am sure, would say that we are worth far more than �30K. It is only those who are fortunate enough, so far, not to have needed to have called upon the assistance of the fire service who state that we are paid enough already. I'm sure their opinion would soon change if they were the person needing our help. We have not taken the decision to strike lightly. We will end up with significantly reduced pay packets over the Christas season. Fire Control Officer from South Wales Fire Service
Catherine, Wales

If firefighters are so badly paid, why do 40 people apply for every vacancy in the fire service?
Chris Jones, UK

I think it's ridiculous how they're not accepting the new pay rises, and saying it's not enough. Anyone in their right mind would accept any pay rise, especially without putting the country at risk.
Dan, North Wales

Is it the government's intention to bring the fire service into line with other services such as the police or health, so that when you dial 999 to report a fire, you will either get an appointment in a week's time, or be given a number to pass on to your insurance company.
Carol Burns, UK

I don't believe they have any real public support over this. The papers will be sitting in wait for the first death 'due to the strike' and the firefighters will be deemed to be evil all over the tabloids.
Barry, Wales

Although many people may support the firefighters, it will take one fatality for this to turn against the service. Negotation - not threatening behaviour - is the only justified way forward. Over the next two days the risk to life is significantly increased as we travel to work, whilst in work and at home. We all hope that this action does not cause loss of life to the young or elderly. Furthermore,should a terrorist attack be imminent in the UK surely this means a siginificant requirement for the support of all service staff.
Russell Davies, Swansea

Firefighters are just being greedy, yes the do a job which involves dangers of a serious kind, but no less than someone in the armed forces, no less than the police, nurses, teachers, and if one lot gets it the rest should to but wait then the tax rise to pay for it would cancel out the rise wanted anyway
Nick, UK

They should not go on strike as the present offer is fair. The army should also be allowed to use their appliances while they are on strike.
Mrs Hughes, Wrexham

Demanding a 40% pay-rise is not realistic. If granted all other sectors of public service will demand the same level of pay resulting in rampant inflation.
J Bromfield, Swansea

I agree that they should go on strike. They fully deserve the wage rise.
Brian Jones, Wrexham

I wholeheartedly agree with the firemen's demand for higher wages. I agree that they should go on strike.
Anharad Powell of Rhos on Sea

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Firefighter Iwan Cray
"At the end of the day, we think we're worth a heck of a lot more than the 4% that the government is offering us."
BBC Wales' Penny Roberts
"For the first time since 1977, army Green Goddesses will be on the streets of Wales."

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