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Wednesday, 6 March, 2002, 15:47 GMT
Row as wardens hit the streets
Two civilian wardens begin their first patrol in Hull
It is hoped the warden patrols will help cut crime
Civilian wardens have taken to the streets of Hull as part of a new government programme to combat crime.

A team of 19 street wardens began patrolling parts of the city in the first stage of a new �50m project.

The nationwide scheme will ultimately see 700 wardens helping local communities tackle crime across the UK.

Critics of the scheme have condemned the warden patrols as "policing on the cheap".


I do have a concern... that we are introducing a cheap second tier policing

Stuart Downes, Local Police Federation in Hull

The introduction of the wardens follow the announcement last month by Home Secretary David Blunkett on the Police Reform Bill which aims to revolutionise the police service.

Under Blunkett's proposals, a new breed of civilian wardens and Community Support Officers (CSOs) would be introduced to give extra strength to police forces.

It is hoped the teams will help tackle crime, anti-social behaviour and clean up local areas.

Wardens' manager John Marshall said the neighbourhood wardens were about uniting local communities and crime prevention rather than law enforcement.

He said: "The introduction of the community wardens, combined with the expansion of CCTV, will definitely help the police with their crackdown against crime.

Helping people

"The wardens' main task will be cleaning up the urban environment to remove drug dens and discarded needles, graffiti and rubbish.

"This initiative is about building community spirit and giving people a pride in their area. It's about assisting people who have nowhere to turn for help."

Ray Toplis, warden team leader said: "We are not here as a replacement police force. We're here to listen to the community."

In contrast, the CSOs would remain civilians but be employed by the police or local authorities and have limited powers - including the right to detain crime suspects for up to 30 minutes.


Anything that helps keep crime down is fine by me

Stephen Gould, Hull resident

They would also be given powers to issue fixed penalty notices and deal with minor traffic offences.

The proposals have angered police officers who believe they would lead to public confusion over the two-tier police officer structure.

Stuart Downes, from the Local Police Federation in Hull, told BBC Radio Humberside he could foresee problems.

"The ministers talk about stopping joyriding, well you don't just stop joyriders by stepping in front of them and putting your hand up.

"You need special powers to do that.

"Police officers are trained to do this and to deal with these sort of individuals.

Waste of money

"I do have a concern that this is the thin end of the wedge, that we are introducing a cheap second tier policing."

The local community in Hull gave a mixed response to the new squad.

Gillian Fuller said: "To be honest just because there is someone in a red coat walking around who could call the police, that isn't going to stop crime.

"I think it's a waste of money."

But Stephen Gould disagreed. He said: "I wouldn't mind talking to a police officer... but some people have a dislike for the police and feel intimidated.

"If these people feel more comfortable talking to a civilian, then that's great. Anything that helps keep crime down is fine by me."


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