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| Tuesday, 1 August, 2000, 08:49 GMT 09:49 UK Concorde tragedy: do you feel safe in the skies? ![]() For a quarter of a century, Concorde enjoyed a reputation as the ultimate in airborne chic and had an almost unblemished safety record. But now that reputation has been lost and public confidence in air travel has been shaken. The skies are becoming increasingly congested, with the number of flights around the world set to double in the next decade. With increasing competition for cheaper flights among airlines and greater stress on air traffic control systems, are we right to be worried about air safety in general? Are many of the planes flying today too old? Do you worry every time you step onto a plane or do you still consider air travel to be one of the safest forms of transport? What do you think about the way the media has covered this latest tragic crash? Click on the link below to watch and listen to Talking Point On Air
Your comments since the programme: I think planes are safe. However, I am unsure of whether this will be the case in the future. The world's population will increase and the number of flights will also increase. Perhaps an area of more concern should be the fact that air is re-circulated on most flights.
Dan, UK I have heard that tyre changes policy in Britain is that after a specific number of take off's and landings, these tyres MUST be replaced. However, Air France requirements are that the tyres must simply be checked after they are a certain age. Interestingly, almost all of the previously reported 'burst tyre' incidents were Air France Concorde's. Michael London, UK Flying is NOT safer than driving, this 'flying is the safest mode of transport' is a classic example of how to lie with statistics. Personally I favour my chances of surviving a 60 mph car crash a tad more than a 300 mph plane crash
Vicky, UK As an amateur pilot and commercial passenger I feel quite safe. What scares me is British roads. I am not however in favour of privatising Air Traffic Control. Look at the mess that is Railtrack. I'm an Engineer, I have at one time worked on Concorde. My initial thoughts on BA's decision not to ground their Concorde's was one of complete agreement. The preliminary press reports seemed to indicate that the accident investigators had a good idea of probable cause thus enabling BA to make that decision. As events have unfolded BA's decision becomes less and less tenable.
Willy Davidson, UK Statistically if you board a jet aircraft every day it will take 28,000 years before you will be involved in a crash. However is still doesn't stop most people's apprehension when travelling by air. I think the tons of fuel, thousands of wires and millions of components that form an aircraft is one of the main reasons for concern. It still seems to me a miracle how these aircraft get off the ground. It is natural for the media to flock around whenever there is an air crash (or a rail crash) because such things are so rare. The massive attention generated compared to a road crash, which happens all the time, is a compliment to the safety record of these modes of transport. Get a grip people! Cars crash, people die of cancer, earthquakes demolish cities and occasionally an aircraft will fall from the sky. It's not a perfect world and people are far from faultless. It's terrible what has happened and my heart goes out to those involved. But bad things happen in life - in the man made world and in nature - so let the experts solve the problems and stop stirring up a storm for those who need some peace at the moment.
James Terran, Bristol, UK I have been fortunate enough to have flown Concorde and have always loved the aircraft. However, given the reports over the weekend of what the investigators believe happened, with debris from a burst tyre puncturing the fuel lines and igniting the fuel, surely the whole fleet should be pulled immediately? Allied with the news of what happened in Washington in 1979, it seems to me that it's a miracle that there has not been a catastrophe before now. Will it take another one before action is taken? The accident in France was a tragedy. However, what made it so "newsworthy" is simply the fact that Concorde has such a good record. It's still the most beautiful aeroplane ever built and my dream is to be able to fly on it one day.
Anthony, Auckland, NZ Want a safer aviation industry? Stop asking the travel agents to book you on the cheapest fares no matter which airline. More pilots get killed driving to and from the airport then they do in planes. Flying is still the safest mode of transport available and in this world we have to take a risk crossing the street - it is silly to say that flying is dangerous. Would someone feel safer staying locked in the hotel room. I think not. This was a perfect example of how irrelevant are all the precautions sometimes. Only statistics can have any meaningful answers.
Yucel, UK The recent Concorde tragedy has obviously and sadly cost a lot of lives. However, do take a look at how many people get killed on today's roads in the UK? Bearing this in mind, I would still feel much safer flying on Concorde than driving on that death-trap of the M25. Sometimes the media have tendency to exaggerate a bit on stories in order to have some hallow and empty debate. Air travel is safe, accidents do happen, but I can slip in my bathtub and die. So there is no point in having this debate. I have only one thing to say: Do we all avoid and ground 737's when one crashes? No.
Emma Daulton, England I was involved myself a number of years ago in a less spectacular plane crash. The only problem I have today is the lack of space inside planes - and I fly about once every two weeks for business reasons. It seems that they are trying to squeeze more and more people into these planes to make as much money as possible. The idea that they are now going to build planes for over 600 passengers proves that profit has taken precedence over comfort. I would gladly pay more money to fly if it meant I had more space on board and better safety. If Concorde was such a great plane, why don't they make them anymore?
2. Why should we continue to speculate about the life or safety of the aircraft? I think we should either rely on the experts whose job it is to look after the planes, trains or vehicles which are used in public transportation. The media are not doing any good by the morbid speculation CR Payne Much of the discussion about the Concorde has been about the technology. This is a good time, however, to look at other aspects of its operation. In commercial and environmental terms the Concorde is a failure. Subsidies have been provided by national governments in order to allow wealthy individuals to travel faster. Its continuation in service is done due to misplaced national pride. Now is the time to reconsider use of these planes.
Iyaz Rahiman, Toronto, Canada It is all well to speculate on the possible causes of this tragic accident, but I think we should wait for the comprehensive investigation through the forthcoming inquiries. Jumping to conclusions can only cloud the real reasons behind the crash.
Tony Humphreys, Prestatyn, UK Surely if the reverse thrusters on the Concorde were not operating properly, this would cause a higher than normal landing speed which would impact tyre life. Were you aware of a Qantas BAE 146 flight that was aborted at Canberra Airport today due to engine fire? Why are there no statistics available about the amount of daily casualties happening in car accidents on the streets world-wide, in Europe, the US, in Asia etc. The number would probably be outrageously high. Hasn't the media so far approached this Concorde accident in a very populist way, instead of sticking to the facts ? Over the last northern winter, I flew from Melbourne (Australia) to Rome with QANTAS. Early that year, a QANTAS 747 came off the runway in Bankok and there were a few other small issues reported locally. I still feel confident that air travel, especially with QANTAS, is safe. The burst bubble is a good way to describe the QANTAS problems. The airline had an enviable safety record and what must be stressed is that despite the spate of incidents over the last 18 months it is still one of the safest airlines.
Paul S Gill, Singapore While Air-travel still remains the safest means of transportation, some things done at Paris this last week leave a lot of questions begging for answers. The fact that the engineers were still fiddling around with the craft a few minutes before the ill-fated flight shows laxity of sorts. The pilot had to put his foot down to have something changed. This is frightening and reminds me of seeing maintenance crew fiddle-faddle with a plane in full view of the would-be passengers. One would want to believe that these are domain of third world, but in Paris? Your comments during the programme:
Mohansingh, India Much of the discussion about the Concorde has been about the technology. This is a good time, however, to look at other aspects of its operation. In commercial and environmental terms the Concorde is a failure. Subsidies have been provided by national governments in order to allow wealthy individuals to travel faster. Its continuation in service is done due to misplaced national pride. Now is the time to reconsider use of these planes.
Fred, Bombay I am involved in the airline industry and have been for the past 40 years. I was absolutely amazed by the coverage given to the Concorde (incident) by Sky News. This aircraft has an exemplary record over the past 25 odd years and it seemed to me Sky News obviously had nothing better to do than follow British Airways Concorde's to see what might happen to them! Boeing introduced the 747 in 1969. The average age of a 747-100 fleet is over 25 years old. If the 747 crashed for the first time today, people would suggest taking it out of service. As it has crashed many times, causing huge loss of life, we now happily fly knowing that it may crash again... I still think that Concorde is one of the greatest engineering feats of the century, and as such should be preserved, regardless of it's future status as a passenger plane. I for one would be quite happy to fly on Concorde (if I could afford it). Your comments before we went ON AIR:
Kevin Johnson, NY, USA It's like the Hindenburg - where there was apparently a serious design-flaw. Are they going to deeply redesign/modify a 30 year-old plane that financially just breaks even? Probably not. So it will remain a risky business at take-off forever. In spite of the lost of more then 100 people, I think that it is to premature to say EXIT FOR CONCORDE. How many accidents can we count throughout the year as we talk about Boeing and other type of aircraft's? Let us not forget that the Concorde crashed last Tuesday was 20 years old (people keep on emphasising the year in with the first Concorde first took off). Nowadays at least 60% of the aircraft's are around 20 years of age. So what is the problem? This aircraft has ancient piston fuel pumps - it is far too old a design to cope properly with modern safety expectations. The environmental damage it exerts is also outrageous - it is both technologically and environmentally in the last century The crash is a tragedy that will have a great impact on Britain especially, but France has a space programme, but without Concorde Britain has nothing.
Nic Lyons, UK This media frenzy and mindless speculation is most irksome. Listen to the proper experts rather than make unfounded assumptions. I would fly in Concorde tomorrow (either BA or Air France). I note the comment made by Geoff of Australia: "You don't see any Military Aircraft still flying of that age". Sorry, but you are quite wrong. The military airforces around the world, including the UK, invariably include old designs. Even the ageless BAe Hawk, still one of the best trainer/fighters in the world today, is getting old. Note, also, the Jaguar. What we mustn't forget is the cost of development and production of aircraft. Because of this massive cost, aeroplanes are not sent to the scrap yard as quickly as cars. Also, relatively little corrosion of airframes occurs as they are not made of ferrous materials, resulting in their life span being greatly increased with respect to cars. Therefore, they are upgraded, rather than replaced. Concorde really isn't old, at least not in "aeroplane years". Overlooked amid the toll of life lost and the crash of a safe aeroplane is the fact that a "true" hero has emerged from the ashes. If I knew that I had a pilot such as the one who lost his life, I would fly any aeroplane with that pilot. A skilful pilot can make all the difference between life and death. This poor man had no chance to use his skills when it was the plane that let him down. Thank God he was able to miss heavy populated areas. The French people should hold their heads high for the effort the pilot made to keep from hitting a large area of the town's population.
Joe Adhemar, London, UK Having grown up with Concorde, watching her maiden flight and living near to the airfield which she flew from on her test flights, I have developed an admiration and appreciation that Concorde is and was an aircraft ahead of her time. I am still unshaken in my belief that Concorde is the safest and most beautiful aircraft in the world today. Whilst I have every sympathy for the victims of this disaster it will not deter me from flying on her should I ever be given the opportunity. An Air France Concorde visited Sydney in about 1989-90. I was lucky enough to be allowed on the tarmac , and was able to admire it from underneath. I couldn't help notice the condition of the tyres....3 tyres were down to the canvas on the main landing gear. My thoughts at the time were that I was glad I wasn't going anywhere in that plane. Many people here are comparing the relative safety of flying to the danger of driving a car. There is however an important difference. When driving a car you are in charge. Reasonably you can expect that if you drive with the utmost care and attention, you can avoid almost any accident situation. Motorcycle courses for example, teach excellent "awareness" techniques purely for survival reasons. When in an aircraft we place our complete trust in the pilots, engineers, and all the other people involved in aircraft safety. We are out of control; there is nothing we can do to make our flight safer. As a regular traveller on Concorde and lots of other aircraft, I will continue to travel by air because I have to for my work, and I do so with full awareness that there is a certain risk, albeit small. I suspect most other business travellers feel the same.
Gordon Lewis, Coventry, UK It stands to reason sitting on top of hundreds of gallons of fuel and rotating parts, that one day a part will fly off through the seating area or possibly through the engine and blow the whole thing sky high. I wouldn't fly Concorde if you paid me. There is a lot in the saying "If god had wanted us to fly he would have gave us wings!" Surely everyone remembers the tragedies of Lockerbie, Kegworth et al? Why don't we take these accidents for what they are - a sign that human flight is against the will of God.
Brendan, England You don't see any Military Aircraft still flying of that age. Although I generally have great faith in Airlines, models of aircraft, and the necessary maintenance staff; the fact is that aeroplanes get old. Do you still see the U.S. Air Force flying Phantoms (to use an aircraft of comparable age)? I think not.
David Gosnell, Milton Keynes, UK According to a statistics, travelling by air is the safest means of transport. The number of accidents is the lowest. However, we have to admit that once an accident happens, the number of casualties is high. Although a number of air crashes occur from time to time, we think the risk is not that high, compared with car crashes because in aeroplane accidents, many people can be killed in the blink of an eye while the total number of those who are killed by car accidents in a year is much higher. Air travel is now so extremely dangerous that I predict people will completely stop travelling by aircraft in about 10 years time. All this speculation as to what happened is just that - speculation. Let's wait until the results of the investigation are known before we make any long-term decisions. Meanwhile, I commend BA for resuming their Concorde service again, after making the necessary checks. It was an unfortunate, tragic accident on Tuesday. We cannot let this one incident bring to a halt every other aircraft in Europe!
Tracy, London, England I can't help but feel that the fact that the pilot was not happy with the state of the aircraft before take off has a lot to do with the crash. Were the ground staff, who had to be persuaded by the pilot to take action, being arrogant? Did they feel that the pilot was making unnecessary demands? Did they have the same attitude as the owners of the Titanic who believed it was unsinkable? Part of the reason air crashes get so much coverage is because they are so rare. In just one fortnight, the British roads alone will take a similar number of lives as were lost in Gonesse, but road deaths are so common they are not newsworthy. If I could afford to fly Concorde, I'd be on it tomorrow. Just because Concorde has crashed does not mean that it is not safe and I believe that the aircraft is as safe now as it was the day it entered service. The crash has reminded us of the aircraft's age but it remains that with regular maintenance the aircraft will fly for 10 years or more. How safe do you feel on the ground? Planes are statistically safer than driving. Its always been a dream of mine to fly to New York by Concorde, and it still is even after Tuesdays terrible crash. I still believe that flying is the safest way to travel. The saddest thing about this is that when a plan does crash it kills everyone on board, and some on land. That's why there is so much media attention to this. If you worked out how many people where in a car crash and hurt in one year (all over the world), and work out how many planes crashed and people died, you will notice that flying is safer. Despite what has happened, and I do feel sorry for all those who are suffering, please keep the Concorde.
Clive Brett, Bristol, UK I have to say I am deeply worried every time I step on to an aircraft operated by the 'value' airlines that have emerged in recent years. Only two years ago, my confidence in flying was shaken dramatically by a near disaster when flying in a thirty year old BAC 111 aircraft which landed awkwardly in a cross wind in Ireland. I complained to the CAA at the time, who were dismissive and, I thought, insensitive to the very real concerns I had about the safety of the airline, which subsequently went bust. My queries to the airline regarding the age of the aircraft in question were simply ignored. In my view, the design life of an aircraft should be respected and, when reached, aircraft should simply be brought out of service. Otherwise, we are staring catastrophe in the face, ignoring it in the interests of commerce. Firstly, this is a horrific & terrifying tragedy and my heart goes out to the families of all those who died. I don't feel Concorde or indeed any aircraft should get a bad reputation as a result of an accident, especially until the full cause is known. I have absolutely no apprehension when stepping aboard an aeroplane, after all, an aeroplane is a machine operated by a highly trained crew in a strictly regulated industry, as opposed to the risks taken by us all, everyday, when we step into our cars, go onto main roads where we are surrounded by many other potentially lethal machines, operated by people with the minimum of training , skills or regulation. Flying continues to be the safest form of transport, when accidents do very occasionally happen, we all get to hear about them due to the large numbers of people involved. I for one would have no problem flying on Concorde, or any other airliner, today, tomorrow or in 10 years from now.
Two suggestions: I have flown with several pilots who have captained Concorde and I have known engineers who work on the aircraft as well. I have always found them to be of a professional manner and sometimes very pedantic in their checks. I have always held pilots in general to a very high regard as to the pressures they have to succumb to with flying. Don't start feeling negative about Concorde or flying in general. They are always flown and worked upon by some of the world's most highly skilled professionals. Thank you. It's understandable for people to feel nervous about flying when there has been such an appalling tragedy as the recent Concorde crash. But such a disaster, horrible though it is, does not mean that a particular model of plane is unsafe. Bear in mind that planes are run by various airlines out of different airports each employing its own maintenance crews. We may now be justified in feeling nervous about Concorde ground crews at de Gaulle, but not about ANY Concorde flight. I believe this is what led to the grounding of the DC10 - a single, terrible incident resulting from poor maintenance, which tarnished the reputation of that particular model across the board. So many airports have launch flight paths over densely populated areas. Why not install runway cameras that feed to cockpit monitors thus allowing flight crews to observe problems like engine fires prior to reaching V1. I don't fly Concorde for the simple reason it's so expensive. However, if I win the lottery I would love to fly on it, even if only once. I would feel as safe as it is possible to feel while strapped into a metal tube containing several thousand gallons of explosive fuel.
Jeff, USA Since Concorde is having some problems with aging aircraft, why not let the Americans and Russians get back to work on the TUPOLEV TU-144? With NASA working on a prototype aircraft, it should be a lot safer and possibly have a faster cruising speed (approx 1,500mph). Flying is really a thing you cannot control. When you're in the air you feel that your fate is in God's hands. Of course, it is determined by our actions. Greater safety standards at airports around the world is imperative to ensure such occurrences don't happen. Maintenance staff should be monitored for signs of fatigue etc. We have travelled three time around the world and many times across the Australian continent and have never felt at risk. I remember seeing a Vulcan crash at Syerston Notts in around 1958 but it has never make me feel uncomfortable. One point - we always travel on a major airline and have now landed and/or taken off from 23 airports. It's much safer than driving on the roads around here. I would have no hesitation, apart from the financial cost, of flying on Concorde. I remember seeing it fly during its trials over the Downs in the late sixties, when I was on a visit home. A similar situation existed during 1960, when my husband and I flew out to Australia on the Comet. (One of the Comets had just crashed near Hong Kong when part of a wing fell off and I think that metal fatigue was the eventual conclusion). I watched the wing, that was visible to me, all the way out, but it did not stop me then and I would worry too much now. Now that I am in my fifties, I am philosophical enough to accept that whatever precautions one takes, sometimes events just line up to cause an accident and disaster. There are no guarantees in life, just live each moment.
Moments after take off we all felt large amounts of turbulence as the plane attempted to gain altitude. Shortly after we received a message from the captain stating that the landing gear had failed to retract, a piece of the pneumatic arm which pulled the landing up had broken away during take-off. We had to fly to the north see at no more 3,000ft and dump all but a small amount of fuel in order to land again. Once landed in tool a further hour to repair. The point is why didn't they check this before take-off? Andrew Hulbert, Bath, UK Firstly, this is a horrific & terrifying tragedy and my heart goes out to the families of all those who died. I don't feel Concorde or indeed any aircraft should get a bad reputation as a result of an accident, especially until the full cause is known. I have absolutely no apprehension when stepping aboard an aeroplane, after all, an aeroplane is a machine operated by a highly trained crew in a strictly regulated industry, as opposed to the risks taken by us all, everyday, when we step into our cars, go onto main roads where we are surrounded by many other potentially lethal machines, operated by people with the minimum of training , skills or regulation. Flying continues to be the safest form of transport, when accidents do very occasionally happen, we all get to hear about them due to the large numbers of people involved. I for one would have no problem flying on Concorde, or any other airliner, today, tomorrow or in 10 years from now. Many accidents in the past few years appear to have happened shortly after the planes were serviced. My initial reaction to this disaster after recovering from the shock was to wonder when the plane was serviced last. It appears that it was 4 days before the flight and that last minute repairs were made. Two suggestions:
Last night, as if as a sign of respect, there were no trains and no announcements. Just the incredible noise of Concorde flying west over the station: everybody on the platforms stood in silence watching it fly over our heads. Once it vanished into a cloud, and the engine noise died away, life carried on and two trains arrived. It was one of those situations that stick in your mind. Dan Sloane, UK It is a tragic accident and my sympathies go to the passengers and crew of that flight. As an aeronautical engineer by qualification I feel I can say that Concorde has many more years flying and is still a flagship for both Air France and British Airways. I would be happy to fly on it as I would any aircraft. This discussion is pointless and serves nothing but a posting board for the Flying phobics of this world. Vive La Concorde! The Concorde accident has a number of parallels with the Korean Jumbo crash at Gatwick at Christmas in so far as an engine was suspected of being on fire before take off. Wouldn't it aid investigation as to possible cause (bird ingestion etc) if all take-offs and landings were routinely recorded? It would be so hasty to stop Concorde flights after the tragedy in Paris. Russia so easily lost her TU-144 (civil supersonic aircraft) about 30 years ago and where are the new models? If the future of Concorde and its successors are doubt... Why have Nasa been conducting SST\SCT test trials in Russia using the re-engined TU144LL (Russian copy of Concorde)?
Petri, Finland The question of Concorde's future viability will probably not be a technologically-driven decision - it will be driven by the market forces instead. After all, what's point in having an aircraft with 'proven' safety if passengers are not willing to fly on it due to the perceived risk. This is especially true of such an expensive plane to fly, which in itself will become increasingly difficult to justify. I don't think we can begin to consider whether Concorde is 'safe' or not until the results of the crash investigation are known. For example, if the crash was found to be due to an engineer's spanner being left in an engine housing, leading to engine failure, would this mean the aircraft is unsafe?
May Concorde fly the skies forever and may we be treated to Concorde offspring in the future. Sarah Bibby, UK Has anyone ever given a thought to the age of these planes? They are over 26 years old. Even some of the third world countries do not fly planes which are over 20 years old. The fault is not only that of the plane, the trend shows that recently there were small problems and a big one was waiting to happen. My heart goes out to all those who suffered a loss as a result of this dreadful crash. However, we should retain a sense of perspective regarding this matter, this aircraft is vastly over engineered and is more closely monitored than any other now in service. Concorde does not appear old when compared against the fleets of the European national carriers, many of whom are flying planes which have clocked up tens of times more flights and flying hours than any Concorde. Aeroplane parts are very expensive and some company's use "fake" parts for the repairs. I'm not saying that Air France has done so, but that it is more likely to have been a maintenance error than a design error. Concorde has been flying over thirty years and not one has crashed until now. I think that pretty much shows the aircraft's quality.
It's continued use helps perpetuate the belief among the rich that they are above being responsible for the environment, and it really is all a bit tastelessly seventies. The crash is just a chance incident that shouldn't be a factor in the decision to retire Concorde. The fact that it's a museum piece from a rather 'irresponsible' part of the last century should be. Dave Green, UK Not wishing to prejudge the outcome of the current inquiry, it is nevertheless true that most aircraft accidents are caused by human error in one form or another. Age, whether of aircraft or other machines, is not an issue provided they are maintained well. After all, the Tiger Moth is still flying and who wouldn't give their right arm to drive an old steam train? I cannot believe that the media are making such a meal of this terrible event. The fact remains that in 30 years one has been lost; I dread to think how many 747's or 737's have been lost in that time, yet they are still 'commercially viable' and continue to be the mainstay of many airlines. After the Concorde crash, the first thing I could think of, besides from the shock of sudden human lost, was how hurt French pride must be. Somehow, I knew how the media would react to the accident yet I feel this has taken a sick dimension, with France mourning the death of a "plane's safety record", forgetting that over 100 people died together with their national pride I work for a company that manufactured parts for Concorde's engines, and these are routinely returned to us for overhaul and re-certification. I can honestly say that it is one of the products we have the least problems with, and despite being 20 to 25 years old they continue to meet all specifications. If they didn't, they wouldn't be put back into service. All aircraft components are checked rigorously after a set number of cycles for faults and if any are found, then the component is not used. No-one called for all Boeing 747's to be grounded when the Korean Airlines cargo convert crashed with what was reported to be a similar problem outside Stanstead less than 12 months ago. Concorde is a high profile aircraft and that is now a millstone around its neck.
Brian Pull, Swanley, England How refreshing to see a discussion almost completely devoid of any knee jerk reaction. Flying's safe, Concorde's safe, of course we can't let the guard down and things like this show just how close to the edge we are at times. All of our sympathy goes to the bereaved, but I for one would be very happy to take the next Air France Concorde out of Charles de Gaulle. With all the talk about Concorde being an outdated piece of equipment, most people seem to forget (or not realise) that the majority of aeroplanes flying these days are also in the region of 20 years old. Why should it be grounded purely as a knee-jerk reaction to this horrific crash? There is a future for Concorde - with all the technology available for detection and repair of aircraft, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't carry on flying. While the CAA is happy to grant Certificates of Airworthiness - why not? Concorde over flies my office everyday, and still people stop and watch this wondrous aircraft. She has more life left in her, and hopefully will continue to maintain her position as the last word in flying. My hope is that the media do not set up a campaign to end her days, without knowing the full facts, as they have so often done before. Let's wait and see what the investigations reveal, and then make informed judgements. Our sympathies to the families of those involved.
John D'Souza, LA, USA Am I right in thinking the Russians had problems/ a crash with their "Concordski" many years ago? This Concorde crash is Europe's equivalent of the Challenger Space Shuttle disaster. It is a reminder of our mortality. But that should not stop us from striving to advance our technological limits. Surely the tragedy at Charles De Gaulle airport yesterday highlights the extent to which airlines will continue to operate close to the operational limits of their fleet, and tend to present all accidents as not reflecting adversely on the condition of the aircraft. The decision to resume Concorde flights today when no cause has been established for the catastrophic failure of a very high power jet engine, of which only a handful are in service, is irresponsible in the extreme. A terrible tragedy for the passengers and relatives but a heaven-sent excuse to finally cease Concorde operations for good. Concorde has cost the French and British Governments many billions since its conception 40 years ago. As with previous gigantic failures, i.e. Scott of the Antarctic, Concorde will now be glorified into the mythology of British aviation. I expect BA shares to rise on the news, as resources wasted on Concorde are redeployed to help BA's ailing performance of late. This tragic crash may not result in Concorde being grounded due to airworthiness concerns but will it force Air France to discontinue its loss making Concorde service? If so, will it also force BA to withdraw Concorde from its fleet in order that it is not seen to be flying an "unsafe" aircraft and thus bringing an end to supersonic airline transport for the foreseeable future? Or will Richard Branson take the opportunity to buy the remainder of the Air France Concorde fleet?
Peter Duffey, Canada Concorde's days are certainly numbered, as are the days of supersonic passenger air travel. It was and is not commercially viable to spend billions on developing such an aircraft to only have a working fleet of a dozen or so planes. This is as true today as it was in the 1960s, when vast government support was ploughed into the programme. It is arguably the knowledge that there is to be no replacement that has kept Concorde alive for so long, too long in my opinion. It's time to retire this fleet and build a new fleet of Concordes. I'm more than certain BA and Air France can afford to contract Aerospatiale and British Aerospace to build some more, tickets costing upwards of $10,000 and all. They s should have known that flying above Mach 1 would cause some wear and tear over 25 years. The folks that originally built the planes still have the plans etc. Why not build a couple of new ones. It would create a few jobs, and I'm sure that the Concordes have paid for themselves by now. The new materials would make the plane that much better, and there is still a market for supersonic passenger travel. It would seem to me that it was a maintenance problem and not a "decrepit old banger" succumbing to stress fatigue. Any accident has a lesson to be learned. The crash of the Concorde can provide insights to various problems that would not have come to light if everything had gone well. It will also lead to extra efforts in making the aeroplanes safer. Looking at the track record of Concorde, I must say that it has been rather impressive. While the crash has certainly been rather tragic, we should not allow this disaster to affect us. More importantly, we should get to the crux of the matter and determine the cause of the crash. Only then, can we prevent similar incidents from recurring in the future.
Liam Coughlan, Yerevan, Armenia Just before take-off they checked the aircraft. They where repairing one engine and then after take-off the plane crashes. If there was a problem with one off the four engines why didn't they cancelled the flight and make some repairs. Everyone is saying one crash in 30 years is nothing. Apart from this seeming a little disrespectful to the 100+ passengers and crew that died, when you compare this to the relatively small number of flights Concorde makes the figures makes slightly uncomfortable reading. The DC10 with it's none too spectacular safety record has a "fatal incidents per million flights" rating of 1.97, the Boeing 747 rates as 1.55. As a result of this single incident the rating for Concorde is now 12.5, by far the worst rating of any plane rated! I think questions need to be answered before rushing them back into service.
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