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 Monday, 13 January, 2003, 09:40 GMT
Winter weather: Your experiences
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Plunging temperatures have brought continued ice and snow to the UK which is still recovering from recent floods.

Snow has fallen on London - a very rare sight in the city - and people in Kent, Essex and the West Country have woken up to a white countryside.

This week has seen temperatures as low as minus 15C in the Scottish Highlands and a couple of degrees below freezing in most of England and Wales.

However, the winter wonderland has brought no delight for many commuters as trains have been disrupted by the freezing weather.

And the United States has experienced freak snowstorms which affected the north-eastern part of the country as well as wreaking havoc in the Mid-West.

How are you finding this winter? Have you been affected by floods or snow? Send us your experiences.

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This Talking Point has now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.

Almost every shop in Dartford was shut

Alex Wilcock, UK
I teach largely elderly students in Kent, so I didn't blame them when only 3 out of 37 turned up yesterday morning. I do blame everyone involved in our transport infrastructure, though, for allowing us to be paralysed by such a tiny amount of snow; by 3pm yesterday, almost every shop in Dartford was shut, and Connex was unable to display any train inofrmation at all. Come on, we're not talking about 6-foot snow drifts here...
Alex Wilcock, UK

My 5 year old has just begged me to get his skis out so he can go and play with his friends as breaktime in kindergarden.
Nordlys, Norway

Perfect weather to stay in with a "Good King Wenceslas" pizza: Deep pan, crisp and even...
David Owen, UK

One of the disadvantages of working from home is that I can't use the excuse that the snow stopped me from going into work, and there's no-one around to have a snowball fight with either! Just as well that it hasn't snowed here in Derby yet, really....
Peter Connolly, England

The TV announcers over here were having a bit of fun with England's couple of inches of snow since we usually get four feet in Ontario. England has never been a country prepared for harsh weather; no snow tyres, no windshield wipers, no proper clothing. Even Tony Blair walked out to his car yesterday foolishly wearing only a short jacket.

Some advice from a place that gets a lot of it: Drive slowly, go into neutral at intersections or if you feel the road is slippery underneath, and always carry a blanket and flares in the car as well as a candle and matches. If you were to slide into a ditch, these small items could save your life.
Kaye, Canada

No-one blinks an eye when it happens in Scotland

Mandy Smith, Scotland
There is such a fuss made in England when it snows but no-one blinks an eye when it happens in Scotland. The weather reporters all talk about treacherous driving conditions across the 'country' when really they mean the south of England. We manage to cope up here so why can't they down south?
Mandy Smith, Scotland

Seeing snow in Soho Square was one in a lifetime opportunity indeed! Winter in Britain is gonna be cold and windy anyway... why not add the extra bit of snow which at least makes everyone a little more cheerful than when it's just raining all the time?
A, UK

Come on - you're all secretly love the idea of an inch of snow causing chaos. It's a damn fine excuse not to go into work!
David W, England

Ah, 1987 we had real snow, proper drifts and everything (I was in the Cotswolds, some were about six feet). I was eight years old and loving it! The snowplough cleared all the roads on our estate and left a big mound at the end of my road, I dug it out and made an igloo, guarded by snowmen!
Claire, UK

The grown-ups are just as enchanted with the snow and ice

Lisa, UK
Cambridge has had very little snow, but the frozen pools of water from the flooding are great fun to slide around on. My daughter's school spends their breaks on the green and got an extra five minutes to play in the snow yesterday. But the grown-ups are just as enchanted with the snow and ice. As they say, "A change is as good as a rest" and I definitely enjoyed our little holiday away and the pretty, if fleeting, new look of the city!
Lisa, UK

Well once again the whole of the country seems to be getting snow etc, but here in sunny Chorley, Lancashire, not one flake, zip, nowt, nothing. How totally boring. Still never mind maybe I'll wake up in the morning to three feet of snow!!
David Wallace, UK

I really feel for those who suffer in the cold, older people for example or the homeless. My rented flat is pretty cold at the moment. I sleep wearing a hat and two jumpers beneath a sleeping bag and two duvets. Brrr.
Dylan Drummond, Scotland, UK

People should learn to turn negatives into positives. Instead of moaning or using the bad weather as an excuse, they should learn from it. I used it to learn how to control my car at speed in poor conditions. I learned not to rely on technology, as I quickly found out ABS brakes and Pirellis have limits. But it was good fun and put a smile on my face slipping and sliding around on snow.
Marc, UK

It makes everywhere look so pretty

Alex White, UK
I love the snow! It makes everywhere look so pretty, apart from Victoria train station whilst waiting for a Connex train. Trains in Scandinavia run through all weather conditions. A flutter of snow here and it takes me three hours to do a 1 1/2 hour train journey!
Alex White, UK

From where I am, it looks beautiful. It's not as if you have it all year round... so wrap up and enjoy nature. It hides many a sore sight, especially in London!
Ron, Australia

I love the snow. I am in San Diego where it is boringly the same all the time, I am going to London end of January, keep some for me!
Pamela, Brit in USA

We're all coping in the minus temperatures

Helen B, England
I'm a shift worker and I'm working nights, outdoors, for 12 hours with short indoor 'warm' breaks only. Despite snow and ice I and all my colleagues manage to get to work and home again. I agree with the others who say that some Britons seem to have forgotten how to drive or what to wear in cold weather - we're all coping in the minus temperatures.
Helen B, England

To date, it's been the mildest winter in Ottawa since we have moved here from England. Normally by now we would have had 30 to 40 inches of snow on the ground. Enjoy the snow back home while it lasts.
Michael Issa, Ottawa, Canada

The view from my office window across Hammersmith has transformed into a winter wonderland in a matter of hours - people are as cheerful as if it were 80 degrees of blazing sunshine outside! Who cares if the tubes and trains can't cope? Find a nice snowy spot and take it all in, it's better than cold and drizzly rain!
Ali, Essex, UK

It's something our kids might not get to see

Claire, Essex, England
I know it's very inconvenient for some and I really feel sorry for animals and older folk but I love it! Everyone in our office has been discussing getting home after just getting in and we're impressed at how big the snowflakes are getting. I'm going to challenge the boys to a snowball fight at lunchtime! Enjoy it if you can, what with global warming it's something our kids might not get to see very often.
Claire, Essex, England

Growing up in Durham, I remember having a good two weeks of snow, and lots of it, right up into my teens. Can anyone remember 1987? Durham got an extra 12 inches each night for about two weeks. Now it seems an inch is pushing things, even up there, and is enough to make the headlines.
P Gleave, Brisbane, Australia

Winter? What winter? Here in northern British Columbia we're enjoying the effects of El Nino and haven't even seen any snow yet!! Usually by this time of year we have about three feet of snow and it's -20. But I should point out not all Canadians can deal with the snow - my neighbours in southern BC don't know what a snow tyre is either...!
Anne Harris, Canada

Went snowmobiling yesterday

Kevin Peterson, Massachusetts, USA
Woo-hoo! I live in north eastern US and we just got 26 inches of fresh snow! Went snowmobiling yesterday with a couple of friends and we met a lady who offered us $20 if we used our sleds to pack down her dogsled trail. It took us an hour, but we did it, and got $40 for our troubles!
Kevin Peterson, Massachusetts, USA

Last weekend I was out in the Trossachs doing some hill walking. The day was perfectly crisp and calm following several days of snowfall, which allowed for some amazing views of Ben Venue reflected on the surface of one of the lochs.

The great views didn't end there, as a few hours later I reached the top of the aforementioned mountain, and was treated to a superb 360 degree panorama of most of the Southern Highlands like something from an alpine postcard. The views stretched from Edinburgh way off to the south east to Glencoe in the north west, giving a day that I'll remember for years.
Joseph, UK

I'm just so glad I'm here and not back at home at the moment, it's 28C and it's really hard, going to the beach every weekend... I expect the supermarkets have already run out of bread and milk... Life's a beach... Happy New Year everyone.
Martin, Australia, Sydney (But I'm a Welsh boy)

I was in London in the winter of 1987 and there was about four inches of snow. I just could not understand London's problems with its weather. I noticed shopkeepers did not shovel the sidewalks and all the cabs seemed to have run down batteries. The first thing one should do is shovel the sidewalks so people can get around. I noticed everyone complaining about it but NO-ONE going out and shovelling it out of the way; it was the strangest attitude to me.

In the northern US we watch the winter coming in and get the snowploughs ready before the storms hit; if we didn't, there would be positive chaos in every major northern US city.
Barbara, USA

London in the snow was even lovelier

J Helyar, Australia
When I was in London in January 1987 there were knee-deep drifts in some of the streets of Bromley. London virtually shut down for three days because the rare occurrence didn't warrant the purchase of the machinery needed to deal with it. Britain is beautiful and London in the snow was even lovelier. Wrap up warmly. What an opportunity to enjoy the beauty!
J Helyar, Australia

I suppose the feature of the UK is the wet climate we have. The moisture makes the cold unpleasant and if we do get snow it tends to be wet, slushy stuff rather than the dry powder they get elsewhere. This is probably why things tend to grind to a halt when we have a cold spell.
Jeff Evans, UK

It is a matter of quantity. If you get regular snow you are set up to deal with it. We don't. We get an inch of it packed hard onto the streets and on the railways which quickly forms black ice. Then two days later it's all gone. How could we possibly invest millions in specialist gear to solve such a little problem? Put another woolly on and walk, or stay at home.
Dave, Kent UK

My girlfriend is in Minsk, Belarus just now. It's -28 there today! Colder than Moscow.
NM, UK

What a pleasant surprise

John Carey, Surrey
What a pleasant surprise. I looked out at 5am and there it was. Snow. Deep and crisp and even under foot. Warmed the place up. I was quite looking forward to hearing about those places that only seem to exist in winter, like the Woodhead Pass, the Buxton to Leek road and the Cat and Fiddle. I know someone who was stuck in the Cat and Fiddle, so they say, for five days one snowy winter. Eight hours later it's all gone. Not even time to make a snowman. The last time it snowed seriously the whole town came to a grinding halt in ten minutes so perhaps it's as well. In this country people just cannot deal with snow.
John Carey, Surrey UK

There are a couple of simple reasons why we can't cope with freezing conditions as well as they can in America and Scandinavia. Firstly, the air here has a much higher moisture content, which creates difficulties with icing, and secondly, they get much more of it and are therefore better geared up to deal with it.
Simon Bayliss, England

It just reminds me of a cartoon my uncle used to have "Due to snow, England has been cancelled!" How true to life! My favourite story involves an explanation from the train companies. The points were frozen causing delays. The points normally have heaters to prevent this happening, but it was too cold, and they stopped working! Does this not defeat the objective?
Virginia, UK

I disagree that we can't handle snow in Britain. I can't speak for Scotland, but while I lived in Northumberland, it was usual for things to freeze over for weeks at a time, and it did not bring things to a halt.

It seems a London and South East phenomenon that people suddenly forget how to drive safely when there's snow and ice. Might I suggest that those shocked by the appearance of snow try venturing north of the Watford Gap services to learn how we cope up there?
John, England

I've just returned from Finland where the temperature was -37C

Leila, UK
I have just returned from North Finland where the temperature was -37C and everywhere was covered in 2-3 foot of snow! Yet everybody was still coping normally - cars, trains and planes were still functioning! Why does a small amount of ice and snow cause so much panic and chaos here!
Leila, UK

It's not cold! It never gets properly cold in the UK - cold weather is something that happens in places like Minneapolis or Helsinki. The problem is when the temperature is around zero the snow binds together and is much harder to clear than the powder which falls when the temperature is many degrees colder. It has, however, been quite wet lately. Last weekend the River Thames where I live was at its highest level since 1947. Fortunately there was no serious flooding of property, since the floodplain locally has not been developed.
John, England

As Billy Connolly once said "There's no such thing as bad weather, just wrong clothes." Get a grip Britain - its only a bit of snow.
James , England

The streets were cleared from snow quite fast

Jonas, Sweden
You should try -24C for a change. In fact we have similar problems in Sweden. Up north where they are much more preventive and deal with the cold in a much more sensible way. When I was a kid I once experienced -43C while living up north. The streets were cleared from snow quite fast, people dressed wisely and drove carefully. Down south people dress poorly, they hardly know what a winter tyre is and the city decides it's better to use salt on the streets than to promote careful driving. This will cause people to have too much faith in the salt and drive much too fast.
Jonas, Sweden

I live in the suburbs of Paris where we have had 4-5" of snow since Saturday. You would think that in a country where a winter trip to the Alps for a skiing holiday is quite common that the disruption would be minimal. Well no. There must be only one gritter lorry in the whole of the Paris region and to say that people here don't know how to drive in the snow is an understatement, not to mention the trains, planes, etc. Mind you the last time it snowed here was 1998 when 1" fell and caused even more chaos...
Matt G, France/UK

I never felt as cold as I did this morning

Paul Eggleton, UK
In the early 1990s I lived in Boston, USA and experienced two of the worst winters for Boston that century. When temperatures were as low as -30C and often several feet of snow. However I never felt as cold as I did this morning leaving my home near Dartmoor. I think the reason the UK feels colder is that our air is much damper, so we get the cold and damp infiltrating our bones. Combine that with the wind chill and its feels very cold indeed. Or am I just getting older?
Paul Eggleton, UK

This snow is terrible. This morning there was nearly an inch on my lawn. It was treacherous. Why doesn't Tony Blair do something about it?
Dave, UK

I cycled two miles from my home in Bedfordshire to my local train station at 6:30am this morning, as I do every morning. Some people suggested that as snow was falling and it was below freezing, this was crazy and that I should have tried to get a lift. People today have become such wusses! I was toasty warm in two jumpers, gloves and a hat. It's a shame my train couldn't have adapted to the cold weather in the way I did...
Matthew Dear, Bedfordshire, UK

I live on the Wirral, but I've been working in New Jersey for the last three months. I have seen more snow since I've been here than I have in the last five years at home. The difference in the way the countries cope is astonishing - even on Christmas Day, when a foot of snow fell where I am, the snowploughs and gritters were out and the roads were clear. However, I am never going to panic about driving in an inch of snow again!
Sarah Paterson, England/USA

There's a simple solution - ban going to work when the weather is like this. It can't be very good for you leaving your house when it's cold and dark.
Luke, England

The first real snow of the year seems to have taken the Danes off guard too!

Michelle, UK/ Denmark
I'm not so certain that Scandinavia is coping that much better - the first real snow of the year seems to have taken the Danes off guard too! Here in Copenhagen the airport is in chaos and it's taken a good 36 hours for all the main roads to be fully gritted. However, we have had a good 12 inches of snow, so maybe I shouldn't be so harsh!
Michelle, UK, writing from Denmark

Not sure the councils really know what they're doing around here... Yesterday the gritting lorry was being followed closely by the road sweeper! OK it's a bit fresh outside but nothing more than that...
Christina, Somerset

Join the club, we have -17 this morning and forecast blowing snow for this afternoon. Consider yourself lucky that you only have this temperature/weather once a while.
Frederick, Canada

I would like to contrast the results of half an inch of snow in London with 6 inches of snow in New York. Back in November I was in New York. It was very cold, but there was no snow. Overnight 6 inches of snow fell. The train to Greenwich CT from Grand Central left to the second of its departure time. There didn't seem to be any evidence of "treacherous" conditions there. Why do we have to exaggerate the effects of half an inch of snow? The car locks in New York and Greenwich didn't seem to be frozen up, why should they be here?
John Jackson, UK

Gritting is late and patchy

Helen, UK
Winter happens every year - it doesn't take me by surprise, but the problems I have is that it takes the city council by surprise and gritting is late and patchy. The additional problem I have is my lovely brand new car seems to have much more trouble on the ice than my previous old banger - obviously winter took the car companies by surprise too.
Helen, UK

It's not cold, it's not even chilly. It distresses me, to say the least, that people in this country cannot cope with a small cold spell without going into hibernation. In my day, we were down the mines in all weathers and sweeping roads - up at the crack of dawn as well I'll have you know! Put a jacket and a hot on and get out there - that's what I say.
Will Faulkner, Cheshire

Why is it that the Scandinavian countries can cope with much colder weather over longer periods and yet a small cold snap and we seem to flounder? It's not as if it should surprise us that the weather has these cold periods; it happens every year (hint: around winter - hence its name).
GMcD, Edinburgh

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