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| Wednesday, 31 January, 2001, 11:50 GMT Mandelson: Was he right to go? ![]() The Northern Ireland Secretary, Peter Mandelson, has resigned, after days of controversy over whether or not he helped an Indian billionaire secure a British passport. Disclaimer: The BBC will put up as many of your comments as possible but we cannot guarantee that all e-mails will be published. The BBC reserves the right to edit comments that are published.Peter Mandelson had denied lobbying on behalf of Srichand Hinduja, whose citizenship application was granted shortly after he pledged to donate �1 million to the Millennium Dome project. But Mr Mandelson faced accusations that he had not been open about his exact role in the passport controversy. Was he right to go? Did he do anything wrong? What effect is it likely to have on the Labour government?
LM, USA Yes he was right to go. The whole affair stinks of sleaze with this Government giving whomever gives it money whatever they want. If they were denied passports originally why suddenly grant them in record time.
Brian Cloughley, UK
Paul Robinson, France Given the political closeness between Blair & Mandelson and their joint involvement with the Dome why is no-one asking the question - what does Blair know about the Dome sponsorship, the passport issue & when did he find out ? It is inconcievable to me that he knew nothing before last week. I have no brief for Mandleson but I have a sneaking suspicion that he was deliberately sacrificed to save the leader The issue (which most contributors appear to miss) is not passport applications, donor money or Mandelson's abilities, but did he mislead or lie concerning the telephone call? If the Parliament cannot trust a minister then he has to go, otherwise UK democracy could not function. Mandelson should not have resigned. He is portrayed as a Labour party hero. He should have been tougher and waited to be sacked. He simply had nothing to lose. Resigning shows weakness. Heroes should go out with more of a heroic bang! No Mandelson should not have resigned. The facts should have been properly established before he was forced to consider his position. The Government/Labour Party is clearly desperate to control events between now and the General Election, and we can expect more of this sort of thing. There is no doubt that he should have resigned. There is more than lack of political judgement in bringing him back into the fold after his last sojourn in the wilderness.
Leon Winnert, UK I do not think that Peter Mandelson should have resigned over this scandal. It is no secret that Mr. Mandelson is unpopular within his own party, but I think that Labour have run out a good minister and the lack of Mr. Mandelson's influence will be evident in the next election. The Hinduja brothers are multi-millionaires. They provide and create jobs in Britain (not to mention give a way millions in charity to British institutions). This is a "Win Win" situation for Britain & the Hindujas. If the Hindujas take their fortune and leave Britain, the country would be a net looser without a doubt. For goodness sake - recognise a good thing when you see it! No Mandelson should not have resigned. The facts should have been properly established before he was forced to consider his position. The Government/Labour Party is clearly desperate to control events between now and the General Election, and we can expect more of this sort of thing. There is no doubt that he should have resigned. There is more than lack of political judgement in bringing him back into the fold after his last sojourn in the wilderness.
Leon Winnert, UK I do not think that Peter Mandelson should have resigned over this scandal. It is no secret that Mr. Mandelson is unpopular within his own party, but I think that Labour have run out a good minister and the lack of Mr. Mandelson's influence will be evident in the next election. No, I don't think he should have resigned for what he did, but he was pushed out for the sake of his party in the run-up to the election. I believe there is more to be revealed about him, so by keeping out of the way, he will, at best, do minimal damage to Tony Blair and his party
Roger Horne, UK No, if we're talking about the passport "scandal". This comes across as a simple mistake on Mandelson's part, and seems more like a non-issue in any event. Yes, if you review his resignation speech. This man was fed up. Perhaps, if you look at Northern Ireland. Too many of the principal players felt he had steered the peace process onto a sandbar.
P Markham, Czech Republic Aren't we all being a little precious here? If I have �100,000 to invest in Australia, I can get citizenship within the year. If I donate one million pounds to the Tories/Labour I can get a seat in the House of Lords. A couple of grand and I can buy another human being! The bloke's real crime was that he forgot the saying "be nice to people on the way up because you're likely to meet them again on the way down".
Elaine Smith, UK I would just like to say that this is yet another part of what I would call jigsaw-puzzle politics. This man has been broken by the media, who are we to know what really went on behind the scenes! Strange that Mandelson has practically been booted out for the second time, the whole affair is pathetic!
Darren E Cooper, UK Mr. Mandelson was the constant target of vicious sectors of the media, and the target of a Tory smear campaign and witch hunt, to the point where not even his private life was his anymore. Criminals have more rights than this man who wasn't even given the basic right to have some privacy in his personal life. He was betrayed by those he helped rise to the top over a ridiculously unimportant affair that could easily have been verified before everyone engaged in hysteria and lynch mob behaviour. He didn't have much choice but to go. It was not the right thing to do, but it may have been the only thing left for him to do under the circumstances. The right thing to do was for Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell to grow spines and not succumb to political pressure, and for Mr. Campbell to make sure he knows what the facts are before opening his mouth in front of the press corps. May Mr. Mandelson rise from the ashes once again. I was very disturbed by the news of Mandelson's resignation. I didn't know much of the background, and what I heard on news headlines made no sense to me. Apparently Peter Mandelson responded to a call from the Hinduja brothers about their application for UK passports by making a brief enquiry to a home office minister. When the media started trying to make a big issue of this, there was a bit of confusion about exactly who said what. Also, the brothers had donated money to a good cause - the "Faith Zone" - in the Millennium Dome. Is there any more to it than that? I listened to William Hague's speech and some of the newspaper headlines. No more explanations. Yet the tone of what they said would have been more suited to a scenario of endemic corruption, where huge amounts of money were regularly going into the personal pockets of politicians to thwart the law of the country. The next thing I heard was that, right in the middle of important talks in the Northern Ireland peace process, a whole range of important ministers were being reshuffled. This is truly scandalous. I did wonder if I was missing something important, so I searched for more explanation. I learned that Peter Mandelson played a key part in publicising apparent wrong-doing in the Conservative Party, and that he is gay. Is it all about revenge and homophobia? It's amazing to me that socialists can forgive their corrupt and dishonest politicians merely because the perpetrators are considered to be "intelligent". We have had that problem with Clinton I see the same pathetic excuses made for Mandelson. Double standards seem to be par for the course with the Left (Orwell figured that out years ago in "Animal Farm").
Bob Newcombe, UK
Peter, England Keith Vaz and Peter Mandelson said that they have done nothing wrong and that such practises were common practice. Now that is the underlying problem that corruption has become so common that people don't think there is anything wrong with it anymore. Why did the Hindujas phone Mr. Mandelson in the first place?If they wanted to know about their passport application they should have phoned the person dealing with it at the passport office (like anyone else has to) and not government ministers they know from private dinners.
Duncan Williamson, England It is good that Mandy resigned because the Tories would have used this to attack the Government. I am a fan of Mandy because of his intelligence and I think even though he has left, he will still remain a secret weapon behind the scenes. All I can truly say is that he is just unlucky. What is all the fuss about? I hope he comes back soon but in the meantime, good luck Mandy I think it's the "only" choice Blair could have forced. He promised a no sleaze approach and that is what the majority of people wanted from the start of the Labour term It's a good thing he's gone, given that he wasn't particularly effective at dealing with Sinn Fein/ IRA, but it's a pity he's left in these circumstances. This obsession with scoring political points through petty, so-called scandals is a disgrace, and in my view serves only to undermine democracy.
Niamh Chiswick, England I must admit I'm no Mandy fan but compared to what half the previous Govenment's dodgy dealings were, I thought his "misdemeanour" somewhat insignificant and I do not think he should have resigned. If the media knew about every MP's "extra curricular" activities, I think Parliament would be left with only the tea lady and Mo Mowlam to run it. Good riddance to him. His intelligence has long been overplayed - he's a political lightweight (remember a Mandy speech anyone?) and a heavyweight smear-master. How ironic and pleasing that his downfall should come from his own media-spun sword once again. Goodbye. Please spare us any more repeats. In any type of misadventure it is always the judgement of the man at the helm that is questioned first. The same should apply in this instance. Give the only life jacket to Gordon Brown and let Tony Blair should go down with his own ship.
Jon Levell, UK Yes. But I look forward to his curtain call. Isn't it just this kind of thing that makes politics fun? It seems suspicious that he felt the need to resign so quickly if he wasn't 'pulling strings' for Mr Hunduja. You can't help but wonder that there must have been more to this story than just an innocent enquiry. The whole Labour Government should resign on grounds of incompetence!!
Pierre Werner, UK I notice that the Year of the Snake has just begun. And therefore, I suspect, he will be back in less than twenty minutes. Perhaps the PM will announce his return during PMQs today... I wonder what the voters in Hartlepool will make of all this at the next election. I think it is very sad that such an able man should be brought down again by what is after all a very trivial issue. If his political career goes no further (which I hope is not the case), I am sure that he will be remembered for his role in saving the Northern Ireland Assembly more than for making a phone call for a friend.
Mark, South Africa I would surmise that Blair asked "Mandy" to tender his resignation with the promise that once the dust had settled after the General Election, he would bring him back into the Government, for a third time, as Foreign Secretary. Blair, for some strange reason, cannot function without "Mandy" by his side. This Government is so arrogant that it thinks itself above the voters of the country. The election in May will give them a short sharp shock but alas not enough to make them come to their senses. Now Mandy has relinquished the interminable problems of Northern Ireland he can concentrate all his efforts behind the scenes on the New Labour election strategy - or was this the plan any way ? Who cares? Just give us Mo back.
Ed, UK I live in Hartlepool and I think he should have been fired! The Hinduja brothers have been under a cloud in India for a long time; to be so closely associated with them is rather brave of Mr Mandelson. I really fear for David Trimble and the peace process in Northern Ireland now. To those who would call for his resignation as a matter of principle: is it really worth risking peace in Northern Ireland for political capital? What is this "principle", if a passport application is deemed to be more important than human lives?
JT, UK Good riddance to him. He did absolutely nothing for the peace process in Northern Ireland. The only reason he resigned is because he would have been sacked otherwise. And the only reason for that, is the upcoming general election. Mandelson has quite correctly resigned quickly and, as usual, has no-one to blame but himself. However, for James UK to make the comments he does is typical anti-Labour distortion. After all, when did any Tory ever resign that quickly?
Brian Flatt, UK Perhaps this is evidence that Tony Blair should accept George W. Bush's invitation to Washington in order to learn about how to run a government with integrity? Peter Mandelson seems to perform whichever role he is given extremely well, and behaves with more dignity than many other MP's - and certainly more than most journalists. I will be extremely sorry to see him go and am alarmed by the return to witchhunt journalism, based on rumour and prejudice. This ultimately pulls us all down to gutter level. I'm surprised Mandelson was allowed back after his first debacle.
Dan, Northern Ireland Not at all. The facts of the matter show that there was no wrongdoing, but as usual the power of the press ruled the day. I applaud Mr Mandelson for making this decision when he did thus sparing the Labour Party from the sniping and backbiting of Tory hypocrites and their allies in the media during the run-up to a General Election. His dignified withdrawal to preserve party reputation is in stark contrast to the squalid behaviour of the legions of real villains in the Conservative ranks. I really did not think what he had done was such a big deal. I do feel however that no third chance should be given. Tony Blair must now pull away from assisting him further. If I was Mo Mowlam I would have a huge smile on my face right now With a General Election on the horizon one must assume Blair said, "Mandy, you are the weakest link. Goodbye". Whilst I am glad to see the end of Mr Mandleson's political career (for the time being), I cannot help but wonder if he is being made a scapegoat for Labour's problems. After all, isn't it a coincidence that his (forced?) resignation comes less than six months before a General Election? Just goes to prove that politicians of all parties are a breed together. I think this is most unfortunate - if it had been any other Minister there would never have been so much of a fuss made. How is anyone supposed to fully remember every detail of a phone call they made years ago?
Jamie McClure, UK Yes he was right to go, but no doubt he'll be back. I think they had to act quickly on this one due to the forthcoming election. I wonder if he'd have gone so quickly if there wasn't an election round the corner. I think it's generally known as "damage limitation" or am I being a bit cynical here? What we have read in the papers today and what happened at Number 10 this morning are undoubtedly two different things. What we do know is that, far from having a hold over Blair, this is yet another example of the Daily Mails and the Daily Telegraphs of this world interfering with governmental decisions. What worries me is what will happen in Northern Ireland now. The last thing the people there need is instability caused by a ministerial resignation. I hope the right-wing elements of the press are proud of themselves for what they have done. How sad that such a talented man should be forced out again by his own foolishness. Perhaps Mr Mandelson's greatest weakness was his desire for high office and to really make his mark on history as a minister. In fact he was surely one of the best 'behind the scenes' politicians Britain has ever seen. His ministerial career should now surely be over, as even St Tony can't raise Lazarus a second time! But don't bet against him playing a massive part in Labour's election campaign. Yes. If only he'd take the rest of this wretched Government with him Yes he should. Is this a record, resigned twice from the same Government in less than three years? No. This is completely unfair on those of us who were looking forward to watching Uncle Tony wriggle and smarm out of another embarrassment. How selfish of him. Oh, for heaven's sake. Politics is so bland these days we don't even get proper sleaze!
Carl Howarth, Jersey Hang on a minute... Any hint of corruption, of any sort, must be dealt with severely to preserve the integrity of British politics. Is this just another example of Labour Minister's willingness to comply with the wishes of wealthy businessmen? This is as honourable a decision as it is an unlikely one. His decision not only places his whole career in peril again, but also leaves the Labour party little room to rebuff claims of corruption by the opposition. Surely he could have ridden out this storm, taken a sideways move in the new Cabinet, and wait for the reshuffle to bring him closer to Mr Blair once again. I take it then that when the usual summer passport delays occur that politicians will "innocently enquire" on behalf of the General Public - do not think so. Glad he had the sense to resign better late than never but for how long?
Andy Gray, UK Of course he was right to go. Once is unfortunate, twice is careless. He should have admitted his involvement straight away. His lies mean that few of the electorate will ever trust him again. He may be good as a spin-doctor and adviser, but as a politician, he is a liability. I always thought he was a poor choice as NI secretary. Bring back Mo Mowlam! Of course he was right to go. What with Northern Ireland go nowhere and an election looming� He was never going to get the accolades his predecessor, Mo Mowlam, got. Masterminding and controlling the election for the party is what he does best. After the election, with a job well done, up will come another ministerial post for him. The position he now finds himself in is so good it he couldn't have planned it better. No, no, no, surely not�
Robert Kaye, UK Would Mr. Mandelson have referred this matter to Mr. O'Brien if it was an ordinary Indian citizen who had approached him for a British passport rather than a billionaire who was in the position to make a significant contribution to the ailing Dome? If Mr. Mandelson can say yes to this question then he is unfortunate.
Derek, ex-pat, Brazil Scandalson? Perhaps we could have a whip-round to get Peter an Indian passport? I agree with Howard Bowen, 'Mandy' will be back in the Government within a year. I wonder how many 'lives' he has left? He shouldn't have resigned - he should have been sacked. Clearly it's a case of someone who cannot be trusted and acts in an incorrect manner. He should leave the post of Northern Ireland secretary and let someone else handle it better than he ever could. This is hilarious, he's resigned twice now and I'm praying Hague asks Blair when he will return during PM's questions this afternoon. I wouldn't be as cynical as Mr. Bowen. It will be at least twenty-four hours before he returns.
Chris Power, UK Peter Mandelson's position in the cabinet was untenable through the fault of no-one other than himself. No doubt Tony Blair will continue to defend Mandelson, however it should be plain for the electorate to now see what an appalling bunch of individuals make up the supposed 'team' that run this country. The ballot boxes in the next election should surely reflect the disgraceful way the Labour Party has conducted itself over the last few months. It seems that Mr Mandelson has misled the House of Commons and therefore the country for a second time, this in itself is wrong, so of course he should go. He has let himself and his party down. If Mandelson had really done nothing wrong - then he would never have resigned, he had too much to lose. The bloke can only be described as "dodgy" - he has become Labour's equivalent of Geoffrey Archer.
Leo Hickey, UK It doesn't look good on Blair either . Basically he has given him 2 chances and he has let down everyone including himself. He must not be allowed to be in govt again. Mandelson is the most intelligent politician of his generation - this is a sad loss for the country. This is a surprise, I didn't think he would resign. I don't see where he did anything wrong, but now that he has resigned, one wonders if he was asked to by Mr Blair.
Stuart Draper, UK Yes. What I wonder is how long he will be out this time. Twenty, thirty minutes? |
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