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| Monday, 24 December, 2001, 11:14 GMT Royal portrait: Your views ![]() The Queen as she is usually seen Lucian Freud's controversial new portrait of the Queen has been hailed as brave and clear sighted by some but condemned as a travesty by others. Disclaimer: The BBC will put up as many of your comments as possible but we cannot guarantee that all e-mails will be published. The BBC reserves the right to edit comments that are published.Here are a selection of your views
Chris Knight, Australia I officially painted the Queen in 1995, (I am the youngest artist to have done so). Freud is a very idiosyncratic artist and treats all his subject matter in the same way. The Queen has been no exception. He has said he does "paintings of people, not like people". He tries to get to the soul through the skin and almost loses himself in examination of areas of the body.
Christian Furr, UK I am an artist and I can say from experience that art is not a kind undertaking. Mr Freud obviously sees the Queen differently than I or anyone else, as we each others differently. He, however can render that perception. An utterly arresting portrait. Just exactly what else would you expect if you ask Lucian Freud to do the job, anyway? No more puerile "Ho ho needs to see his granddad" jokes, please. I think it is interesting, it is a picture which stands out as a complex portrait. QE2 is in her twilight years, it is silly to hark back to early picture. It's sense of realism is refreshing.
Domenic Rinaldi, USA The crown and the curls look great, but the face: off with his head! The Barbeque Royal At Lucian Freud she must be annoyed, Lucien Freud's portrait of The Queen is embarrassingly puerile and naive reminding one of that kitsch Woolworth Weeping Boy school of painting. Freud clearly has not learnt from his grand master Francis Bacon because Freud is still trapped in a 19th century mode of realist illustration which remains on the level of painting-by-numbers. Who says Freud is Britain's greatest living painter? Ugly due to poor technique. Unfortunately done on purpose to attract attention.
Nat Shiraiso, UK If this is the work of supposedly the UK's greatest living painter then God help the UK. Yet another case of the "King is in his altogether" no doubt on the part of the inner sanctum of Art critics.
If that is Freud's rendition then we should accept it as being art. Lucien Freud's painting is NOT an insult to the Queen. It is not a carefully staged photograph or a video pic with Vaseline on the lens. This is a portrait that shows power and a tough sort of grace that is embodied in the head's position and the way the eyes hold all and reveal little. I hope nobody had to pay to have THAT done to the Queen!!!! England should definitely switch to euro bills to avoid putting this caricature on its legal tender.
Neil Fraser, Canada This picture is very ugly. It makes my great great great grandma look good. Superb work of art. Freud is a brilliant artist, the Queen is a remarkable woman, one of the great ladies of this century. Both the subject and the artist show the transition to this new millennium. It would frighten the Corgis. I think the portrait is great, timely, and honest. We are fortunate to have it. The Queen's visage reflects the strength and resilience of age, perhaps of a life lived unflinchingly with courage. It reflects her. She is not frail, but wise. Quite a blessing for the nation considering what she and the royal family have experienced in the last 20 years.
Jack Sunderland, USA I disagree with the comments saying it isn't flattering - that's beside the point. I just think it isn't a very good portrait. The only feeling which comes across is dourness - there's no subtlety in the expression, it doesn't seem to offer any real insight. Somewhere behind the over-zealous use of strokes is a painting of the queen. It looks as if the painter ran out of brushes and paint and finished it with a pallet knife and the colours available from dulux, then borrowed the skills of a decorator. It could be a nice portrait of a lady, but it doesn't really look like the Queen herself. Without the crown I probably wouldn't have recognised her.
Elaine Crowell, Canada Give her a pair of glasses and we now have Dame Edna. I would assume that the queen was familiar with the artist's style. If so she must have been happy to sit for the portrait knowing it would be "warts and all". I think that says a lot about the queen.
The portrait (?) at best depicts a "lost soul", but in fact is a disgrace to the Royal Family. It should never hang, but the "artist" should! I think the portrait is a fine one and rewards close attention. It shows the stolidity and psychological reticence of the Queen in a way few of her numerous other portraitists have been able to do in over 50 years.
Ross Urquhart, United Kingdom Please, please, please do Camilla! What is art? A truckload of bricks a load of manure, this effort surely is in this category We took a vote in our family and decided the artist should not be paid. Just because he can't paint himself any better then he painted the queen does not make her picture valid.
Philip Hughes, USA It's a painting. It's not important. The world is still spinning. Get on with your lives. Undeniable talent as a cartoonist. This is a Freudian slip. (Sorry, too obvious. But irresistible).
From the earrings up: the Queen on a bad day. From the earrings down: President Reagan at 5pm. I have often wondered if art critics see things the same way as us mere mortals. Piles of bricks and displays entailing nothing more than an empty room with alternate light sources appear to bring high praise from them. I'm sure Mr Freud is a master of his chosen field, but speaking for myself, family and friends his recent portrait of Her Majesty, looks more akin to her spitting image puppet than the real person. I think that the picture is not of the Queen at all. It looks more like Richard Butler, the ex-UN arms inspector in Iraq - in drag. Paul Mercer, Saudi Arabia This is what art should be all about. It describes the Queen from the inside - or at least the painter's concept of her. Further, it shows what a great artist Freud really is - he could have painted an image to please the Queen and the masses, but his maturity, integrity and honesty did not allow him to do this. As a portrait of someone I've never seen to be the paradigm of jollity, I think Freud has got it just right. If I wanted a perfect image of the Queen I'd look at my change. I'm astonished it took Freud so long. It looks like it was knocked off in 10 minutes by a half-blind pavement artist using wet chalks. So bad it should be entered for the Turner Prize. It looks like Biffa Bacon's mum! More cartoon than "art", it is not a painting that sheds any virtue on the artist. If as many believe, art is something that enhances life, then this picture fails. What we must not forget is that it is simply art and Her Majesty is just another subject for Mr. Freud's work. The portrait is a riveting, bold and powerful It looks as if Her Majesty just swallowed a glass of pickle juice. Interesting, in a Dorian Gray sort of way, but not great art in my honest opinion. I think the Queen probably deserved better than this. At last an antidote to all the kitsch and servility of royal portraits. The regalia strikes an appropriately ludicrous touch. The Queen knew what to expect when Freud was commissioned. Whilst hardly his greatest portrait, it is realistic. The Queen as an aging night-club bouncer. Brilliant! An up-to-date portrait for an out-of-date system. It's a pity that Mr Freud's relative Sigmund is not still alive to give him a psychoanalytical consultation. Really good portrait. It will be a great piece for the royal collection. Looks like Alfred Hitchcock in drag. This is no Freudian slip but the face of Majesty, naked and unashamed. What a pity that the Queen didn't go the whole Jerry Hall way and show us all the Crown Jewels. This should guarantee Mr Freud never gets a knighthood and quite right too! A one-way ticket to Traitor's Gate is appropriate!
What's everyone so upset about? It's a Spitting Image!
Take a photograph of the Queen. Her face is full of colour and life, facets completely missed in this painting. If we should expect simply to see portraits of what people really look like, please paint them, not the rubbish by this so-called revered artist. I think the Freud portrait is a work of great power. It shows a woman who has lived a life of duty and learned much from it. It is not pretty, but why should it be? I wouldn't mind an unflattering yet realistic portrait but this isn't even that. I have seen better portraits on the Gallery on Vision On! Once again the Royal Family is open to ridicule. His portrait appears to give the Queen fat lips, no cheekbones, a wide neck and copious bruising. I would have thought it was a drag act played by an overweight former rugby player trying to look like the Queen. Not impressed. I think the painting is a very honest and cutting portrayal of such a powerful person. Many other artists would not have had the courage to portray the Queen in such a manner, and if that was the case, then art would have made no progress in the past 500 or so years. He was no more or less insulting to Her Majesty than to any other works of art of his. Style is subjective. If you don't like it, then you're entitled to say so, but you're not entitled to make objective claims about it. Perhaps those objecting would rather see Liz pictured as a latter-day Britannia astride a lion, complete with trident, next to a still life bowl of fruit or some Haywain-esque scenes? Disgusting! The so called "art critics" are pulling our legs! What a con! Terrible! Shame! It would appear to me that Freud has successfully given us two portraits for the price of one. He has cunningly merged the portrait of the Queen with that of the Prime Minister. If you like it or not it is unmistakeably The Queen. He seems to have concentrated far more on the detail of the crown than the face. Although the crown doesn't fit at all. He must have put a lot of effort into this - a criteria often overlooked in art, particularly for the Turner Prize. 15, maybe 20 seconds to choose which light switch? I don't like the painting but I appreciate the effort he put in. A major factor in Freud's painting seems to be that he does not pretend that normal standards of physical beauty matter. Old people do not have the sort of beauty which we love in the young, but their faces are full of character. To imagine that the importance of the monarch is in her physical beauty is an insult to her. Well done Freud! Not that I particularly like the portrait.
Perhaps best viewed at a very great distance. I think it is a complete insult to that gentle Lady. His art is not worthy of fame. Once again, art has got people talking which is perhaps what art is all about? I love the textures of the painting and think the crown is particularly striking. Agreed, the chin looks rather manly but it's a stunning painting. Why commission Freud if you want a flattering portrait? As a Brit I can appreciate this its ugly, funny but shows all the experiences and tragedies that this woman has gone through. Actually it is the face of the nation; colourful, full of vigour in spite of it all! It is a winner!
Jon Webster, England I think it is one of the ugliest paintings I have ever seen. If that painting came up at car boot sale, I doubt that it would fetch a fiver. This portrait of the Queen isn't even close to accurately portraying her. It should not hang in the Queen's collection!
You know, at first glance, I was disgusted by the portrait. However after studying it, I can see the years of hard work and dedication to duty have taken their toll on Her Majesty. He has managed to capture that in her eyes and although it is not flattering, I can see where he is coming from. Any comment from Her Majesty? I am sure she has something to say! I like it! She looks statesmanlike. I particularly like the crown with the hair. She has real weight and presence in that picture, and I think that's more important than making her look feminine-pretty: she's a queen, not some girly princess. I don't think the portrait is honest. I think it is unnecessarily mean-spirited. On the news this morning they said that Freud does most of his painting through the night. Well, it is about time he switched the light on! Rather than blasting them for "opening themselves up to ridicule", I actually think the Royal Family deserve praise for commissioning Lucien Freud. Portraiture isn't about flattery - it's about reflecting a personality, getting under the skin. Portrait painting is not, and doesn't pretend to be photography. Freud is a fantastic, world famous British artist. Good on the Queen for a controversial choice. My first reaction was disgust, but once I saw a better reproduction (on this web site) I thought it was fabulous. The only thing I find hard to take are the severe shadows. And the winner of the 2002 Turner prize is.... Firstly, to Simon Baxter, the painting is not necessarily intended to provoke in the same manner as your photograph would be. Who know's perhaps the colour and life in the Queen's face is a facade - the painting unlike the photograph can more directly provoke such a consideration. Secondly, with regard to Robert Phillips' opinion: the Sun is part of modern day culture. It is a sincere portrait reflecting the Queen in her true humanity. It seeks not to glorify but to humanise the British Crown. This portrait is a disgrace. Send Freud to the tower. He's lucky he wasn't painting Henry VIII. He'd have been beheaded. It isn't a very good likeness to Her Maj - although the crown gives you a good clue - and the way he's done it suggests that you're not supposed to like her. I'm not an ardent monarchist but I think she deserves a more sympathetic treatment. If Simon Baxter simply wants a representation of physical appearance than a photograph will suffice. I contend that an artistic interpretation should reflect a deeper caricature and stimulate thought and discussion. In this Mr Freud has clearly been successful - Bravo. If an artist is true to his own work, when he creates a portrait, it is merely how the artist's mind portrays that person and not necessarily how the rest of society see the same individual. There is no doubt that Mr Freud is an extremely talented artist.
Robin Bairstow, USA This is a superb modern portrait. I love the contrast between the sweeping brush strokes used for the hair and face and the delicate work on the diamonds. It gives a feeling of the real person under the formal crown. There is no point is producing a copy of a 500-year-old style that pretended to be an accurate likeness. We all know exactly what the Queen looks like from photos. Congratulations to Lucian Freud for painting the portrait and to the Queen for allowing herself to be painted in this style. Didn't Reubens get into trouble for painting as he saw? Shocking at first, but incredibly intriguing. This is an artist's interpretation of who the Queen is, not a photograph of her face. What an honour to be portrayed with such purity of character. A disrespectful and irrelevant item of attention-seeking "artistic" self-indulgence. I love the eyes. It's so honest. The Sun, the Mirror et al can do and say whatever they want, and sadly people listen. It's a portrait of the Queen - not an attractive one, but an interesting one, and that's it. I for one think it has great emotional depth - well done that man. I first saw the painting on the cover of a newspaper before I was aware of any controversy. I knew instantly who it was, and thought it refreshing that a royal portrait should be so honest. There is colour in there, and life, sympathy and affection. I would suggest looking at it, as I did, from a greater distance than you would hold a newspaper, and with an open mind. To be honest it just doesn't look like the Queen. Remove the crown and it could be any elegant older lady. With the crown it looks more like the Queen Mum. Compared with the 1996 Anthony Williams portrait this is a poor effort. Once again we see a case of the emperor's new clothes in the art world. This is a bad painting, yet not wanting to offend the artist, the critics have claimed it a triumph. This man may indeed be a fortunate member of the artistic community, but this depiction of the Queen is absolutely disgraceful. One simply does not portray a member of Royalty in such a light. The style is so rough, and so typical of his earlier work, that it lacks originality. While it may be expressive, it makes Her Majesty appear to have a beard of all things! Robert Phillips forces his opinion on us yet criticises the Sun for voicing their opinion of the painting. I would think that most of us "non-critics" view the picture for what it is, a very poor representation of our monarch, maybe a worthy statement in art, but hardly flattering to the Queen.
Let us allow the Queen to grow older with grace. Not have these "interpretations" of her thrust upon us year after year to rapturous acclaim from the art world.
Our poor Queen! What a load of rubbish - my 4-year-old could do a better job, shame on Freud and shame on those pompous "critics" who should have lambasted this dross from the start. I hardly think one should take the Sun photographer's comments about this brilliant portrait too seriously - after all it's not a rag noted for its understanding or support of art - other than nudes that is. Looks more like a portrait of the Queen's spitting image puppet. Look at it squinting and you can see a better resemblance. Otherwise it is not how our Queen should be depicted, she's much better than that Yes, this is a masterpiece. The portrait depicts the worn out face of a woman who has done a job well and for a long period of time. The face reflects accurately the number of times she's been slandered and humiliated by the press, yet said nothing. She looks out with sadness on the UK, with all its petty problems and wonders. She knows her time is nearly up, but yet it reflects nobility. If no-one else wants it, I'll have it for my living room. If historians a 100 years or so from now look at this so called work of art, do you really think that they would see our Queen as she truly is or think she was a lead player in Nightmare on Elm Street? It is an insult to a wonderful lady! | See also: Internet links: The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites Top Arts stories now: Links to more Arts stories are at the foot of the page. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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