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Monday, 15 April, 2002, 17:37 GMT 18:37 UK
Expat pensions: Your comments
The case could have ramifications for many
The High Court has begun hearing arguments in the case of a South Africa-based British pensioner, who says her pension should be uprated in line with inflation. The following is a selection of your comments.

I was shocked when I found that my pension would not rise year by year. The British government was quite happy to increase each year the payments in line with inflation. But... when it comes to paying out they stop at the last full financial year. I hope that the government will see that this is totally unfair and is for sure a breach of human rights. It is wrong that some should get cover other than others.

What a shameful bunch of cheapskates this British Government are

Len Barratt, Australia
I live in Poland it is not in the EC and there is no way the Polish government would be so kind as to make up my pension, they have enough troubles of their own. I hope the lady wins the case and I applaud the two governments who also come out to support this application. Like with so many other things including war pensions the British government procrastinates crying that they cannot afford it. But in all fairness they should be made to pay. It is the right of all British subjects and specially those who like me have paid in for years to keep my basic pension rights.
Alan, Poland

The arrogantly selective attitude of the British Government toward ex-pat Britons who choose to live in certain other countries is not only stupidly parsimonious, but a gross infringement of people's dignity and discrimination in its worst form. If a Briton, who has worked and paid taxes, or even fought for Britain, decides to live in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, or Hong Kong in their retirement, their pension is frozen at the level when they left the UK.

Anyone living outside the UK should take this into account when they choose to live abroad. Would anyone moving to a cheaper country be prepared to take a cut?

Andrew Mantle, UK
If, however, they choose to live in Europe, which are foreign countries and not part of the Commonwealth, including erstwhile enemy countries like Germany or Italy, then their pension is indexed. The 220,000 ex-pat Britons living in Australia have had their pensions topped up, courtesy of the Australian taxpayers for 42 years. And for at least 25 years the Australian Government has tried to get the British Government to accept its responsibilities, to no avail. What a shameful bunch of cheapskates this British Government are. We have ex-pat Brits here with chests full of medals from fighting in the British armed forces and who are being treated like second class citizens by their own government, because they choose to live elsewhere than the UK. Pensioners who live abroad save the UK a fortune by not placing a burden on the NHS or local authority care for the elderly. To then penalise them with a lower pension is adding insult to injury.
Roger Ward, UK

Except for 7 years my working life has been outside of the UK so I don't expect to get much of a UK pension. I am appalled however of the discrimination against UK pensioners shown by the British government to those who choose to live in certain commonwealth countries. Why is it just to index pensions for those in the USA but not for those a couple of kilometers north in Canada? The law is an ass!
Jon Ward, Canada

If these people have paid in their "stamp" then they should be entitled to the full pension rights. The government appears to be wanting money in taxes with responsibility to those who paid the tax.
Derek E Coleman, Powys UK

We had our pensions frozen when we left the UK. We do not cost the UK government anything which we would do if we still lived there. It is totally unfair.
S Pinniger, Australia

I am incensed that someone who has 'deserted' our country is now pursuing this course of action. I question whether if they leave this country that they should still get MY income tax let alone demand an increase !
Ian Mynott, England

Why should I as a tax payer be expected to help pay the pensions of people who have left Britain. At what rate of inflation should the government use to increase these pensions paid overseas. Should we use the UK rate or should we use the host nations rate or should we use a rate from another nation like Japan. I object to pensions being paid abroad I do not believe that the people who remain in Britain�s economy gain any benefit from funding overseas pensioners. These people have left Britain to act in their own interests. They have decided to leave Britain for a better life and they must have found it otherwise they would not have left.
Paul Allum, England

Shame, shame, shame.
Len Barrett, Australia

My interest is that of a UK pensioner and taxpayer. To argue that it is a human right to receive an inflation proofed or (living standard related) pension is unacceptable. The increases are intended to apply to conditions in the UK, and anyone living outside the UK should take that into account when they choose to live abroad. Would anyone moving to a cheaper country be prepared to take a cut? If there is a question of discrimination it can be solved easily by putting all overseas residents (except for the EU, where we have different obligations) on the same basis as those who receive no uprating.
Andrew Mantle, UK

As an ex-serviceman now living in Australia, I find the British government's policy to expats mean and miserly, and the cause of much poor feeling to our parent country among many ex British citizens living in Australia.
Durrant D.J, Australia

How ridiculous - how can it be more expensive to up-rate pensions for those abroad than it would be to pay them - and all medical expenses, etc - if they were still living in the UK. How can this be justified?
Fran Edmonds, UK

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