MASSACRE IN LUXOR FINAL SCRIPT 1. PRE-TITLE TEASE CAPTION : 6.00am Monday 17th November 1997 100009 Egypt: As the sun rose over the Nile four coach parties left Luxor for a sightseeing trip to one of the country’s finest ancient monuments; Queen Hatchepsut’s Temple. CAPTION: FRANZISKA VIDMER MUELLER (no caption) FRANZISKA WIDMER MUELLER SYNC We were about twenty people on the bus // and our tour guide //said, “So now we are leaving the east side, which means the city of the living people and we are going to the west side, which means the city of the dead people” 100046 Three hours later the sightseers had witnessed a brutal massacre. 100059 Fifty-eight tourists from seven countries, and four Egyptians were gunned down at point blank range. 100108 They did not know their killers, or why they were targeted. 100118 Now, Five years on, relatives from three families who died that day want answers. From around the world, they are coming together to travel to Luxor. TITLE : MASSACRE IN LUXOR 2. TOURIST EGYPT PYRAMIDS & TEMPLES 100139 Egypt, land of the pharaohs. ….. It’s five thousand year old heritage of pyramids, temples and mausoleums has attracted visitors for centuries. LUXOR AERIALS & TEMPLES 100203 Ancient sites like Luxor in the South have been transformed into popular holiday destinations. They come for guaranteed sunshine and daytrips into Egypt’s past. They have little contact with local people. 3. HALIFAX SET UP CAPTION : HALIFAX, YORKSHIRE HALIFAX & PHOTOS OF TURNER FAMILY 100224 In October 1997 the Turner family were planning a trip to Egypt. Karina Turner – a 24 year old airhostess, lived with her daughter, Shaunnah, her sister and her mother. 100244 Karina was a single mum. Her work took her away from home three or four days a week but she enjoyed an active social life. 100252 Since Christmas of 1996, she had been seeing local hairdresser John Laycock. CAPTION: JOHN LAYCOCK JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC I was on a work’s staff night out and I just got talking to her. She was out with a group of friends; I was out with my friends from work. I don’t think that I’d been out with anyone a quite a long time, on a regular basis. And when Karina did come along, it just all of a sudden just changed really and I did spend a lot of time with her. VIDEO – JEAN WITH SHAUNNAH 100319 Karina started seeing a lot of John. She relied on her mother for babysitting, as well as Shaunnah’s other grandmother who lived nearby. CAPTION: JEAN DAWSON JEAN DAWSON SYNC Shaunnah was my son’s child. She was a very very bonny child and a very loving child, very affectionate. She liked kisses and cuddles. 0349 As the holiday in Egypt got closer, the five-year old’s excitement grew. JEAN DAWSON SYNC …and she was very excited about going, you know. She was going over the sea on this big plane, and it’s going to be very hot, and I have to take my sun lotions, and I’ve got to wear a hat. And so we were on countdown then to how long it was beforel she went on this big plane. 0410 Egypt hadn’t been Karina’s choice - like John she preferred sunshine and a hotel pool to sightseeing. But Karina let her mother Joan choose the holiday as a thank you for all her help. JOHN SYNC It was more Joan’s interest who just wanted to look at the sights. I know for a fact Karina didn’t want to do that. I’ve never been interested in things like that. 4. JAPAN SET UP SATOKO AND HIDENORI CAPTION : TOKOROZAWA, JAPAN 0442 In Japan, four newly-wed couples were also planning a trip to Egypt. Amongst them was 25 year old Satoko Yamashita. SATAKO PARENTS HOUSE 0456 Satako had grown up with her parents and younger sister Shoko in a suburb of Tokyo. 0503 Before the wedding they were inseparable seldom spending time apart. HOUSE IN TOKYO & SHOKO SERVING DINNER 0512 They dreamt of setting up a small family restaurant, where they’d serve an exotic mix of eastern foods learned from their mother. 0524 Satako was very protective of her younger sister. If ever Shoko was feeling depressed Satako would write notes to cheer her up. CAPTION: SHOKO KANZAKI SHOKO KANZAKI SYNC 0533 Dear Shoko, I think I am really lucky to have a sister like you. I know you are having a hard time at the moment but try to be brave and go for it. Your friends and family are always there for you…..Your Sister.I 0606 Satako’s arranged marriage to Hidenori in October 1997 was an elaborate mix of styles. Christian, Shinto…. and pure Vegas. 0617 For their honeymoon the couple chose an exotic tour of Egypt’s ancient sites. CAPTION: HIROSHI YAMASHITA HIROSHI YAMASHITA SYNC 0625 (0633) They were both fascinated by the ancient civilisation of Egypt. They couldn’t wait to go, especially Luxor and the Valley of the Kings. I remember it now. 02.29.35= out 5. SET UP HANS FAMILY CAPTION : SWITZERLAND 0655 In Switzerland, Rosalie Valler was offered a free trip to Luxor by a relative in the travel business. Rosalie wanted her youngest daughter Cecile to go with her ….but she had some concerns about safety in Egypt. She contacted her well-travelled brother artist Hans Schoepfer. CAPTION: HANS SCHOEPFER HANS SCHOEPFER SYNC - 0715 My sister asked me whether I thought she should go. She was a bit nervous and wanted my advice. I told her that I’d been in countless Third World countries - in regions where civil war was raging. I’d been mugged several times. But I’d never lost my life. So I told her, If you insist on being frightened, you’ll never go anywhere. But you could just as easily lose your life outside your own front door! Meine Schwester hat mir das erzaehlt und mich gefragt ob Sie gehen soll. Sie hatte ein wenig Angst und und mich um Rat gebeten. Ich habe Ihr geantwortet, dass ich in so vielen verschieden Laender in der 3. Welt war. In Gebieten wo Buergerkrieg herrschte, ich wurde einigemale Ueberfallen. Aber es war nie der Fall, dass ich um das Leben kam. Also habe ich Ihr gesagt, wenn Du Angst haben willst, dann kannst Du nirgends hingehen. Dann kann man auch vor der Haustuere um das Leben kommen. 6. IN LUXOR MAP … mix to gvs 0740 Luxor lying in the heart of Upper Egypt, surrounded by harsh desert hugs the banks of the Nile. This isolated town relies almost entirely on tourism. Outside the centre there’s nothing but peasant farming. 0759 Every year one and a half million sightseers flock here filling the town’s coffers with much needed funds. 0808 By November 16th 1997, among thousands of tourists Karina,… Satoko, ….Rosalie ….and their families had checked into their luxury hotels. 7. HALIFAX HAIRDRESSER 0828 Back in Halifax John Laycock was having a busy Saturday at his hairdressing salon. 0835 Karina had left a couple of phone messages to say she was enjoying the hotel pool. At nine o’clock that evening John rang back, forgetting the two-hour time difference. JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC So she comes on the phone and she’s sleepy and tired and I said, “Hiya, are you alright?” and she went, “what are you doing ringing at this time?” I said, “you said ring me back, so I’ve rung you.” I said, “what are you doing in bed,” and she said, “John, it’s 11 O’ Clock at night.” “Oh shit, I didn’t realise! What are you doing in bed now, I thought you’d be out.” “No, we’re going on a trip in the morning. We’re up early, maybe 5 or 6 O’ Clock.” I said, “Oh, I hope you have a nice time,” and I said, “look, I won’t keep you. Speak to you soon. And that was it. 8. SATOKO IN LUXOR 0919 Satako and Hidenori and the other honeymooners were coming to the end of their ten-day tour. 0928 The group planned an early start to visit the temple the next day but Satako and her husband stayed up late to celebrate…… It was well past midnight before they turned in. 9. JOURNEY TO THE TEMPLE CAPTION : 6.00 am MONDAY 17th NOVEMBER 0944 The following morning the honeymoon couples left early for their tour of the ancient sites on the West Bank of Luxor. 0955 At the same time a Swiss tour group was also leaving the hotel….. Franziska Mueller and her husband Felix had arrived the night before. FRANZISKA WIDMER MUELLER SYNC We took off very early in the morning, because you don’t want to be there in the midst of the day when full bright sunlight// When we crossed the bridge from east to west we just happened to see the sunrise, which was wonderful. CAPTION: FELIX MUELLER FELIX MUELLER SYNC It’s beautiful. Just a gorgeous place. The mixture between the nature of the Nile, the desert and the history, the old monuments, it’s just unique. It’s an extraordinary place. In a way, I fell in love with Egypt. 1054 Rosalie and Cecile were with another tour group – also on their way to Hatchepsut’s Temple, the highlight of their journey 10. COLOSSUS OF MENNON & PHOTO OF KARINA & SHAUNNAH 1106 Karina persuaded her mum to take a taxi to the Temple. It meant an extra hour in bed. 1118 On the way they stopped briefly at the Colossus Of Memnon to take what would be their only photo that day. 11. HATCHEPSUT TEMPLE – THE MASSACRE CAPTION : 8.20am THE TEMPLE OF HATCHEPSUT 1139 By 8.10am. the Japanese, the British and two Swiss tour groups had converged at Queen Hatchepsut’s Temple. ….At the entrance they passed the temple’s only armed guard. FRANZISKA SYNC There was one group at the entrance ahead of us. They stopped because they wanted to take more pictures. Our tour guide who was a little bit in a hurry said well you can still take pictures when we get back so let’s rush up to the second level and see the wonderful murals there. TEMPLE RELIEFS 1211 Queen Hatshepsut was the greatest female Pharaoh, famous for deceiving her subjects by dressing as a bearded man. She had her spectacular funerary temple built into the rock face. 1226 Beautiful reliefs depicting her reign were carved and painted on the walls of the second tier. ….This is where most tourists congregate under the watchful eye of temple staff. TOURISTS 1241 By 8.30 groups from several countries had set off with their guides. There were some 400 tourists and Egyptians in and around the site. 1252 Satako and her group were busy taking pictures of the temple. 1256 Swiss tourist Beatrice Nigg noticed one of the newly weds. CAPTION: BEATRICE NIGG BEATRICE NIGG SYNC I remember seeing a very beautiful Japanese girl. She was sitting on a bench dressed all in white, very dainty. I imagined that she was on honeymoon. IN TC 10.12.01 Ich kann ich erinnern, dass ich eine ganz huebsche Japanerin gesehen habe, Sie sass auf einer Bank.ganz in weiss gekleidet, sehr niedllich. OUT TC 10.12.05 IN TC 10.12.09 Ich habe mir vorgestellt, dass Sie sich sicherlich auf einer Hochzeitsreise befindet. OUT TC 10.12.13 RECONSTRUCTION - TERRORISTS ARRIVE IN CAR 1313 No-one noticed the arrival of a blue taxi at 8.35. 1325 Six young men got out…. They were wearing military style uniforms, red headbands and carrying holdalls. RECONSTRUCTION 1331 At the gate the men were asked for their tickets. 1336 The last man reached into his holdall, took out an automatic weapon and shot the armed guard and two temple staff. HATCHEPSUT RELIEFS FRANZISKA MUELLER SYNC I realised I was behind my group and I ran, and when I ran to that Hathur Temple entrance, the first shots were already heard. FELIX MUELLER SYNC Immediately, I knew that this was something really serious. But your brain is still looking for the easy explanation. CAPTION: HASSAN EL NOUBI: Store Holder HASSAN EL NOUBI SYNC 1414 Everyone was panicking, shouting terrorists, terrorists FRANZISKA MUELLER SYNC What I saw was the Egyptians running away. And that made me scared, because I thought, if they run away then it must be something quite severe. And then instantly you realise, this is about us, we have to hide. BEATRICE NIGG SYNC 1435 Somehow I had the feeling I had to get away. I didn’t want to wait for the others to react. IN TC 10.12.56 Irgendwie hatte ich das Gefuehl ich muss hier weg Ich wollte nicht warten bis die anderen reagierten. OUT TC 10.13.00 FRANZISKA MUELLER SYNC I realised that I could not find Felix anymore because everyone was running around in this limited space. Then, I saw Felix climbing a little wall in the back of the Hathor Temple. FELIX MUELLER SYNC My wife followed me, and we climbed over the wall and there was a kind of little niche on the outside of the temple and we hid there. BEATRICE NIGG SYNC 1504 And then Mr. Mueller and his wife came in to the same hideaway as my friend and me, so there were four of us crouching behind a wall. IN TC 10.14.40 Und Dann ist Herr Mueller mit seiner Frau auch in diese Grube gekommen. Wir haben zu viert niederghuren. Wir waren dann zu viert Linka, Herr Mueller, seine Frau und ich. OUT TC 10.14.50 FRANZISKA MUELLER SYNC First we heard all the screaming. Then, we realised that they would kill us if we were not quiet. BEATRICE NIGG SYNC - 1524 There was a deathly silence between us. Noone dared breathe. Weil es war so eine Totenstille. Man hat sich fast nicht getraut zu atmen. Out=10.15.25 FELIX MUELLER SYNC The whole valley was filled with shots and cries, and there was an echo going back and forth. FELIX MUELLER SYNC It was really disturbing because you couldn’t localise where the attacks actually were going on. There was somebody in your back, somebody in your front, somebody to your left, to your right. You just had no idea. BEATRICE NIGG SYNC - 1605 I had the feeling it went on for ages. We wondered why no police were coming; why absolutely nobody turned up to stop it? It was unbelievable! What was going on must have been so horrific. In = 10.16.54 Ich hatte das Gefuehl es ging eine Ewigkeit. Wir haben uns auch ueberlegt wieso keine Polizei kommt . Wieso kommt da nicht irgendjemand, der dem ganzen ein Ende bereitet. Das gibt es ja wohl nicht. Das muss ja wirklich grauenvoll zu und hergehen. 10.17.06 FELIX MUELLER SYNC The shooting then in a way started to taper off, I would say, after fifteen to twenty minutes. FRANZISKA MUELLER SYNC After the last shot, there was still screaming, and of course, now we knew that they also had knives and of course, we didn’t hear the knives, we could only hear the screams. ] FELIX MUELLER SYNC And it was totally quiet, and you had not the slightest idea, what is going on now. 1650 Around 9.20, with still no sign of the police, the terrorists made their getaway by hijacking a tourist coach. ……The driver was local Egyptian Haggag Nahhas CAPTION: HAGGAG NAHHAS ALI – Coach Driver HAGGAG NAHHAS ALI SYNC - 1702 Six men ran in front of the bus firing guns in the air, so I had to stop… They forced me to turn around and take them to the Valley of the Kings . They wanted to kill the maximum amount of people. RECONSTRUCTION - BLOOD BATH 1727 Back at the temple the survivors waited for 20 minutes before they dared emerge from hiding FRANZISKA MUELLER SYNC I know that I would probably never be able to deal with what I would see so of course, we were prepared to see the worst. And what we saw was the worst. Yes. It was all these people you saw when they were alive. They were lying dead. BEATRICE NIGG SYNC - 1751 And then I saw the Japanese girl again, still sitting in the same spot but just dead. In = 10.18.08 Und dann habe ich die Japanerin wieder gesehen, immer noch in der gleichen Haltung, Einfach halt gestorben. Out = 10.18. 15 BUS HIJACK 1800 On the hijacked coach Haggag Nahhas was trying to avoid tourist sites and look for help…. After 30 minutes he spotted a police checkpoint and slowed. The terrorists realised that the driver had taken them the wrong way and took their revenge. HAGGAG NAHHAS SYNC -1816 One of them hit me in the shoulder with the butt of his rifle. He hit me so hard that my shoulder broke. I completely lost the use of this arm. TOURIST VIDEO 1836 Alerted by frantic calls from the temple, the checkpoint police opened fire. ….The six terrorists jumped off the bus and ran into the nearby hills, chased by police and local Egyptians. ….A tourist captured the moment on their camera. TOURIST VIDEO 1908 With this gun battle raging around them tourists and Egyptians took shelter in the entrance of a nearby tomb. ARCHIVE 1924 One hour later all six gunmen were dead. HATCHEPSUT 1936 From the moment the first shots rang out it had taken the police forty-five minutes to arrive at the temple. …..What confronted them was a scene of total carnage. VICTIMS 1942 Many of the dead, especially the women had been mutilated with machetes. 1945 The gunmen had left a leaflet in a disembowelled victim. It said that they had been ready to sacrifice their lives in the name of Islam, and that their ultimate aim was to destroy the economy of a corrupt and unjust regime. It was signed ‘The Brigade of Devastation and Destruction.’ 2010 In thirty minutes these militant Islamists had massacred 58 tourists and 4 Egyptians. 2020 Rosalie and Cecile were among the 36 Swiss dead ; 10 Japanese couples including Satoko and Hidenori, 4 Germans, 2 Colombians and 6 British including Karina, her mother Jean and the youngest victim - five year old Shaunnah. 12. AFTERMATH - HALIFAX JEAN AT HOSPICE 2043 News of the massacre at Luxor started being broadcast around the world. 2049 Jean Dawson was on duty at the hospice where she worked .She’d seen the television reports but thought that Shaunnah and her family were on the east bank of Luxor and not the west bank. 2158 Then she got a call from her son, Shaunnah’s father. JEAN DAWSON SYNC I just said,Richard? And he didn't answer actually, there was just this silence. I said, Richard, speak to me,I said, Richard, speak to me, what is it? I says, is it Shaunnah? Er, you know, say something. I can’t tell you Mum. I says, try Richard. And he just says, it's worse than that. He says, they're not hurt. He says. He says, Shaunnah's dead. And I... (crying) .. In fact, they're all dead... JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC You never expect anything like this to happen. You don't know how you're going to respond. And you try not to cry, you try not to break down. But how can you not? You always think you can handle things, but when something like that happens, it… it… it killed me inside. 13. YAMASHITAS – RECEIVE BAD NEWS SHOKO DRIVING 2200 In Japan Shoko and her mother had just returned from a shopping trip. SHOKO KANZAKI SYNC - 2208 When we came home, my father was standing in front of the TV staring at the news flash. He said Satoko might have got involved in a terrorist incident. NHK TV NEWS NHK PRESENTER SYNC - 2222 In Egypt’s tourist resort of Luxor, a tourist bus was hijacked by an armed group who engaged in a gun battle with local police. SHOKO SYNC - 2229 One or two hours later, we heard the first confirmed death of a Japanese tourist. It was Hidenori Aoki, my brother in law. At that point my parents burst into tears. 14. HANS – RECEIVES NEWS 2243 In Switzerland Hans Schoepfer was at home with his wife when he learned that his aging mother had broken her leg and been hospitalised…then came the worse news about Rosalie and Cecile… . HANS SCHOEPFER SYNC - 2259 Of course it was a shock. Somehow two things happened at the same time. But one eclipsed the other. The problem was how to tell our elderly mother, who was in hospital, that her daughter had passed away before her. IN TC 11.20.16 Es war natuerlich ein Schock. Irgendwie sind gerade zwei Sachen zusammen gekommen. Aber das eine hat das andere ueberdeckt. Das Problem war dann , wie koennen wir das unsere alten Mutter beibringen, im Spital auf dem Krankenbett. Das ihre Tochter vor Ihr aus dem Leben getreten ist. Out TC 11.20.32.28 15. POLITICAL REACTION ARCHIVE of MUBARAK at HAPSHEPSUT 2320 The following day President Mubarak clearly shocked visited the site….. He sacked both the Minister of Interior and Head of Security but assured the press that Egyptian security was in good order. PRESIDENT HOSNI MUBARAK ACTUALITY - 2333 I tell him that security is in good shape, although for what happened, we are very sorry for that. And sometimes, if you are going to London… 2348 The government announced that the police had shot all six terrorists, putting an end to the incident. 2356 Blood and bullet marks were swept away in preparation for the next day’s tourists. 2405 But the very same day, as the terrorists weapons went on display, the Gama’a al-Islamiyya, an banned fundamentalist group with its stronghold in the South, claimed responsibility for the massacre. 2417 And witnesses began to cast doubt on the official version of events CAPTION: HISHAM GOHAR – Cameraman HISHAM GOHAR SYNC I came here, in this place. I find one ambulance, and two bodies coming from up, from the cave, coming down to the ambulance. I filmed them, and I noticed that they were shot from here. So I realised that they were suicide, both of them and they look like military or police.. 2453 Whatever the truth, there can be no doubt that the gunmen expected to die that day. 16. BODY MIX UP HALIFAX OR LONDON 2503 Forty eight hours later the bodies of six tourists were flown to London. 2513 John Laycock, Shaunnah’s natural father and another relative travelled down to London to identify their family . ….Shaunnah’s father recognised his five year- old daughter. Then John went to view Karina. JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC So, I went in, and obviously, I broke down. Karina was viewed in a shroud, which was from a side view. And I actually said at the time, ‘that’s not her.’ And then a hand comes on my shoulder, and says, ‘Look John, sorry, but everybody says that.’ 2543 A day later, Karina’s sister confirmed the mistake. The Egyptian authorities had sent two strangers back to Britain. NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS 2550 The funeral was cancelled and a worldwide hunt for the bodies of Karina and her mother Joan began. 2559 While the mix up was resolved, Shaunnah’s body was kept at the city morgue. JEAN DAWSON SYNC Shaunnah was placed in a deep freeze in Bradford, and It’s hard to function life as normal, when you are aware that your granddaughter is in a deep freeze and that she’s got a bullet through the head. 2629 It took an agonising eleven weeks before three generations of the Turner family were finally laid to rest. 2645 The British government did not request an independent investigation into the events. 2654 Subsequent attempts by the family to find out exactly what happened were unsuccessful. 17. SWITZERLAND – HANS - ERECTS A MONUMENT – SWISS REPORT 2708 As the years passed Hans Schoepfer turned to his art to find a way of dealing with the loss of his sister, Rosalie. He raised money to design and build a memorial to the victims of terror and has even tried to understand the position of the terrorists. HANS SCHOEPFER SYNC -2725 They see rich tourists coming from the West with different beliefs and taking over their country. These are cultures and countries which are exploited by our countries .// But we know that the massacre was consciously provoked so that the events would get into the press and be shown around the globe. TC: 11.30. 34 Da kommen Touristen, die man als reich betrachtet, aus einem westlichen Land. Mit einem anderen Glauben. Sie kommen in unsere Gegend, sie besetzen unser Land. Das sind Kulturen und Laender die von unseren Laender ausgebeutet werden. Out = 11.30.52 TC IN 11.31.03 Aber man hat schon bemerkt, dass es bewusst so provoziert wurde, damit das Ereignis in die Presse kommt und damit es auch rund um den Erdball ausgestrahlt wird. OUT11.31.11 SWISS POLICE 2751 The Swiss ordered their own inquiry into the massacre. But many of their questions to Egyptian police went unanswered. 18. JAPAN INTERVENING YEARS GRAVE AT JAPAN 2811 In Japan the deaths of Satako and Hidenori have been hard to bear for Shoko and her family. Shoko had treatment for the trauma but was unable to erase the pain. YAMASHITAS IN OFFICE OR WITH OTHER FAMILIES 2824 Shoko’s father, lawyer Hiroshi Yamashita made his own inquiries…. He discovered that the Gama’a Islamiyya had sent a warning to a news agency a month prior to the massacre, advising tourists to avoid Egypt. 2840 He tried to sue the tour company for not issuing a warning to travellers. A settlement was made out of court but it came well short of the public apology the families craved. MR YAMASHITA SYNC - 2852 (in = tape 5014: 04.06.24 Watashino bawai mo) The result of the case was far from satisfactory. In fact, it was a lost cause as far as we were concerned. (Out = 5014: 04.06.33 jishitsu wa haisodek godzai n mashta) FADE TO BLACK PETITION MONTAGE 2902 Five years on, and the world’s media is full of the horrors of Islamist terrorism. But the families of those massacred at Luxor have still not received an explanation for what happened. 2915 Now they have decided to take matters into their own hands. 2921 They are collecting signatures for a petition. It asks the Egyptian government to erect a memorial at Hatshepsut’s Temple to those who died. Upsound How’s that? Nice one. HALIFAX SIGNATURES 2937 To coincide with the fifth anniversary John Laycock, Jean Dawson, Shoko and Hiroshi Yamashita and Hans Schoepfer have decided to travel to Egypt to deliver their petition – and to ask for answers to their many questions. AIRPORTS AND GETTING ON TO PLANE Upsound 2955 They still don’t know exactly what happened that day in Luxor. They don’t know if there were others behind the massacre. They don’t know why the Egyptian government compiled an official report --- but never made it public. 19. FAMILIES MEET IN LUXOR CAPTION : LUXOR JOHN JEAN & HANS AT BREAKFAST JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC You lost your sister and niece. Were they on business or holiday? HANS SCHOEPFER SYNC They were on holiday, yes. JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC Just the two of them? HANS SCHOEPFER SYNC But my sister was working together with my other sister in a travel agency. JEAN DAWSON SYNC Since you lost them, what have you got from the Egyptians then, with regard to information or anything? HANS SCHOEPFER SYNC I didn’t receive anything from Egypt. I think for the Egyptian government, the affair is closed. YAMASHITAS ARRIVE HIROSHI YAMASHITA SYNC Hello! HANS SCHOEPFER SYNC Hello! Hans Schoepfer from Switzerland. HIROSHI YAMASHITA SYNC My name is Yamashita. Hiroshi. JEAN DAWSON SYNC Very good to meet you. So hopefully we will share some good time together and make it productive. JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC Hello! I’m John. HIROSHI YAMASHITA SYNC Hiroshi Yamashita. JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC Nice to meet you. 20. TOURIST MONTAGE 3152 On day one of their journey the families want to get a taste of tourist Luxor. 3158 Modern Luxor has grown up around the ancient capital of Thebes. 3206 Its four thousand year history has made it the jewel in of the Egyptian tourist industry. 3214 After the blow of the Luxor massacre and then Sept 11th, tourism has begun to recover – to the relief of the locals JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC I’m impressed with Luxor itself. Just looking over the Nile. I never thought of it this way. As Egypt in general. Obviously, as Egypt in general, obviously, we’ve got a lot more to look at, but I must admit, this is nice, a nice setting and the people are very nice. HANS SYNC - 3236 tape 27 – 3.10.46 Everybody is looking for work. They are very polite. They hope to make new contacts. You feel, that tourism is currently the only means of survival. In 3. 10. 46 Ueberall ist man auf der Suche nach arbeit. Man ist sehr hoeflich. Man hofft neue Kontakte zu schaffen und man spurt wirklich das hier der Tourismus zur Zeit die einzige moeglichkeit fuers ueberleben ist. (Out = 03. 10. 57) JEAN SYNC I’ve met some very very lovely Egyptian people. Just ordinary people that are very kind to people, very warm people,.. that as I say it seems a world away from the terrorists that did the massacre SHOK KANZAKI & HIROSHI YAMASHITA SYNC - 3306 I’m glad we’ve come here. So am I because I’ve heard how the other families from other countries have been feeling all this time, and now we can share our feelings. 3323 Yes, let’s do our best. Let’s do whatever we can to have the memorial built. 21. FAMILIES TO HATCHEPSUT 3334 The next day the group travel to the Temple of Hapshepsut to pay their respects to their families. They are hoping to meet some eyewitnesses to the events. 3348 At breakfast Shoko has given Jean a gift chosen by her mother in Japan. JEAN SYNC I thought it was handkerchief but it was explained it’s for carrying objects like what the Geisha’s use. So being sentimental I’m taking it with me so a little part of her mother will be with me. JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC I don’t know. Last night I didn’t want to go. I suppose when I get there, my emotions may come out but I don’t know. We’ll see. HIROSHI YAMAHITA SYNC - 3435 It’s been a long five years, but it went very quickly. It is also true that the thought of going there does scare me a little. But, by going there, I might get closer to my daughter. 3502 There now appears to be plenty of security around the temple 3511 The families are met by Egyptian government officials. CAPTION: ABU’L MAGD OMAR – Head of Tourism - Luxor ABU’L MAGD OMAR SYNC On behalf of Dr Biltagi, the Minister of Tourism, to express our feeling of sorrow and sadness for what happened. FLOWERS 3607 Shoko wants to place flowers at the exact spot where her sister died but it is busy with tourists. HIROSHI YAMASHITA SYNC - 3617 But, it is too busy. Come on, we’ll place them over there. SHOKO KANZAKI SYNC 3623 But, I want to put them in the right place. You put them down then. JEAN DAWSON SYNC - If I was a dead person, I would hope that someone, somewhere, someday would come back to the place where I died. SHOKO SYNC - 3717 I’d like to pray for everyone who lost their lives here. I pray that they will live happily in heaven. And one day when we join them there, I would like to hear them say to me, ‘Well done.’ I would like to try and move on, from today. HIROSHI SYNC - 3749 The memories of the two come flooding back to me. I am very saddened. 3813 Hans wants to lay flowers to symbolise peace. HANS SCHOEPFER SYNC In all religions, flowers are also symbols of life. Especially, in Christian belief. For us, also the cross is a very nice symbol HANS (GERMAN ) - 3833 Imagine. There were so many people in this temple who saw the shooting. They must have been thinking that their turn would be next. This makes an incredible impression. And of course I started thinking about my relatives. How did they spend their last moments? It made me feel sad to think how short life is for all of us. IN TC 03.17.04 Stellen sie sich vor, da waren so viel Menschen in diesem Tempel. Und sie sahen wie geschossen wurde und sie mussten denken, ich komme auch darauf an. Das ist natuerlich unglaublich eindruecklich. Und da ist es natuerlilch schon klar, dass ich an meine Angehoerigen dachten //wie haben sie ihre letzten Minuten verbracht, ich wurde aber auch ein wenig nostalgisch weil ich spuerte, dass das Leben halt fuer uns alle nicht so lange ist. // OUT TC 03.17.38 GROUP SHOT - 3903 The families want details of the day their relatives died….. Ahmed Noubi was among the first officials to arrive after the massacre five years ago and explains why the terrorists met so little resistance CAPTION AHMED NOUBI MOUSSA – Head of Information - Luxor AHMED NOUBI MOUSSA SYNC We took security for granted, in Luxor or Aswan er, we didn't think that it could take place here, because you know the historical sites at Luxor, it is in the mountains, and it is naturally protected. The second thing, it is a big village, we almost know each other in person. So we took it for granted, and yes, we have to take the responsibility for that. 3945 The families had been told they’d meet Egyptian eyewitnesses to hear more details of what happened that day. But they are nowhere to be seen. JEAN SYNC When I spoke to the others including the Japanese who only have just arrived really, since yesterday, we all seem to feel there is something that seems to be being held back about the whole affair and none of us are really sure what that can be. 21. NIGHTIME LUXOR 4022 That evening, the families try to mix with local Egyptians off the tourist track in Luxor’s back street market. JEAN DAWSON SYNC I think we’ll swap, good idea. JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC I think these watches are copies…. JEAN DAWSON SYNC Mohammad’s got one, have you seen his? JOHN IN BARBER SHOP 4055 John is curious to meet an Egyptian barber. JOHN LAYCOCK AND CUSTOMER SYNC Are you taking this off? No, I like it (Television!) This no work in England, this style? This style no work in England. This style? Not work in England? You might struggle with the women. I like it. Maybe is nice on my face or no? No, better without. Without? No I like it. In Egypt its not for decoration. Its for my God. For your God? Right Why is this for your God then? In Egypt, you only going the Mosque 22. YAMASHITAS TO CAIRO CAPTION :CAIRO 4150 Cairo, 700 kilometres north of Luxor. It is the seat of power and Egypt’s Islamic centre. Nearly a third of the population of the country live here. 4158 Hiroshi and Shoko Yamashita have come to try and get access to the official police report of the massacre. 4206 But first they want to follow in the footsteps of Satako and Hidenori – who spent three days sightseeing in Cairo five years ago. 23. J/H MEET WITNESSES GROUP MEET BUS DRIVER 104239 In Luxor, Jean John and Hans keep pressing for information about the terrorists. AHMED NUBI SYNC Jean, this is Haggag who is a bus driver. He is the hero. 4248 After many phone calls they’ve been allowed to meet the bus driver who was hijacked by the gunmen. AHMED NOUBI SYNC This is Mr Hans from Switzerland HAGAG SYNC 4258 So the road to the Valley of the Kings and the road that leads to the hospital are in completely opposite directions. 4303 Reliving the ordeal is obviously painful for Hagagg . AHMED NOUBI MOUSSA SYNC He was driving by one arm cos he was hit on his shoulder. And he was under such tremendous pressure with six people, gun, have guns. So it was a very hard moment.Yeah. JEAN And to sustain that process for a length of time. I mean its how long it lasted isn’t it. 4319 Hagagg’s heroic actions nearly cost him his life. He lay in a coma for 15 days before regaining consciousness. JEAN SYNC You can’t blame all the Egyptians for what a few chose to do. That was. They did it for their motivation and their reasons. If we’re able to find that out, why , from someone in their group and what were their thoughts and what lay behind targeting the tourists, what they hoped to gain from that, then again that’s a bonus. Maybe we’ll get that as well. 24. WHO WERE PERPETRATORS MAP 4415 From the limited information available the families know that the gunmen came from towns and villages around Qena, 70 kilometres north of Luxor. GROUP - 4427 They ask to be taken there to meet with relatives of the gunmen but the authorities refuse - they say safety is the problem. HANS IN VILLAGES - 4436 But just a short drive from Luxor, Hans finds villages that are typical of the whole of Upper Egypt. UPSOUND HANS There are many people here. Many children, they can’t go to school. The father doesn’t have money so it’s impossible to make something. 4458 To Hans, the contrast between his world and this is striking. 4505 HANS SYNC (German) Would they have become murderers if they lived in my environment? I don’t think so. They are victims of fanaticism, of indoctrination, of hate and despair. 4523 Hans has learned that the gunmen were all young university students. But in these villages even education brings limited options -- and no political voice. 25. SHOKO TO MOSQUE MOSQUE EXTERIOR (Muezzin) 4544 Al Azhar Mosque in Cairo is the seat of Egypt’s Islamic hierarchy. 4550 Shoko has wondered how the Luxor massacre could have been committed in the name of God . SHOKO SYNC AT HOTEL – 4555 In 08.07.21 Kochirano Islam coy no oshey I don’t know what Islam teaches you over here and what they value most in their life. But I’m guessing that the most important thing for people here is their faith. SHOKO V/O IN MOSQUE - 4607 In = Watashino 08.07. 31 Now that’s very different from what I believe in myself. (doyuhuni) But how can some people value their religious faith and at the same time come up with such extreme ideas? I don’t know but this is something I’ve yet to find out. 08.07.49. 4626 One of Egypt’s foremost Sheikhs has agreed to meet her. SHOKO SYNC -4632 As a Muslim, how do you interpret the violence of extremists today? CAPTION: SHEIKH ABDUL SUDOOR – Al Azhar Mosque and University SHEIKH ABDUL SUDOOR SYNC -4638 The Holy Quran says that any relationship with other human beings, no matter what his faith, should be built on tolerance and acceptance…. This violence was perpetrated by a sect that has left Islam. This kind of violence is prohibited in Islam because Islam has always and will always condemn violence. 4702 But violence in the name of Islam is not a new phenomenon in Egypt. 26. WHO ARE THE ISLAMISTS? Prison van 4710 Since 1990 the Egyptian government had been confronting a new more extreme form of Islam. Yams into building and greet 4717 In Cairo the Yamashitas manage to secure a meeting with a lawyer who became an unofficial spokesman for the Gama’a al-Islamiyya 4728 Many of his clients are young men from Upper Egypt who’ve been detained in a cycle of violence and repression. 4738 For five years before the Luxor attack, a secret war had been raging between the state and the Islamists. MONTASSIR AL ZAYAAT SYNC …completely banning violence against tourists. 4745 Small groups of militants attacked the government, soldiers and police, demanding the creation of an Islamic state 4753 The Egyptian authorities fought back with a ruthless crackdown. … By 1997 the jails were bulging with thousands of detainees, many from towns near Luxor. MONTASSIR AL ZAYAAT SYNC …preventing them from expressing their views. 4811 The militant Islamists believed tourism was a legitimate target – propping up what they saw as a godless regime. Two months before Luxor 10 Germans were murdered in Cairo. 4816 At the time, imprisoned leaders of Gama’a al-Islamiyya had called a ceasefire. 4826 Lawyer Al-Zayaat was trying to negotiate their release from prison. 4835 But to escape arrest, some of the Group’s more radical leaders had fled to Afghanistan…. Defying the cease- fire, they continued to direct groups of armed militants within Egypt. CAPTION: MUNTASSER AL ZAYAAT – Islamist Lawyer MUNTASSER AL ZAYYAT SYNC - 4845 It would appear that there was some kind of a breakdown in communication between the armed fighters on the ground inside Egypt and their leadership that had fled Egypt. Communication had broken down after the ceasefire. 4900 It was from Afghanistan, that two dissident Gama al- Islamiyya members, ordered an attack in Luxor. 4909 They operated from the camps of Osama Bin Laden who was starting to form an organised terror group, Al Qaida. 27. RAGAB TAKES FAMILIES TO SHOW WHERE THE TERRORISTS FLED upsound 4921 In Luxor, few witnesses have come forward, but the group finally get permission to visit the hills where the gunmen fled . 4935 Ragab Ramadam was near the police checkpoint when he heard the exchange of gunfire. CAPTION: RAGAB RAMADAN – Eye Witness RAGAB RAMADAN, , JEAN AND JOHN SYNC They killed one here, the first and then the five in the passway How long was it? Half an hour? More. Can be one hour and a half, two hours, like this. This security up there . Was that here at the time or is this new since? No that’s new. JEAN Cos, one of the things that came from it was that there wasn’t enough security prior to the massacre… RAGEB Yeah, before the security was the people. They are very very good here, you know. And nothing happened before. 28. YAMASHITAS IN CAIRO 5039 It’s Shoko’s last night in Cairo. She wants to take spices back for her mother. 5058 Shoko and her father feel they’ve made progress.Tomorrow they have finally secured a meeting with the Interior Ministry – it should provide the official version of events. YAMASHITAS IN CAIRO 5105 Hiroshi wants to know why tourists were so poorly warned and protected in an area so close to Egypt’s internal war…. He wants the official police report. But the ministry is keen to pin the blame outside Egypt. CAPTION: GENERAL AHMED OMAR GENERAL SYNC - 5124 The Luxor incident was planned and funded by elements that had fled abroad. Egypt was requesting the extradition of these elements from many countries, but these requests were not met 29. FAMILIES REDEFINE GOALS 5140 To the Yamashitas the ministry’s assurances that the Islamic terrorist threat inside Egypt has been removed is of little comfort. They have left the meeting without the official police report. 5155 Shoko is concerned about why the gunmen turned to violence. SHO KO - 5203 I think it’s a serious problem. If poverty drove them to it, then the Egyptian people must think about what they can do to enrich the minds of young people for the future. 5226 In Luxor, Hans’s is also finding himself coming to conclusions about how to move on HANS SYNC -5233 These people have their own culture. It’s just different from ours. And I want to stop judging them all the time. We can’t keep comparing them. We have accept them the way they are and look first for the positive sides. If we can start doing this, then we’ll be able to have a dialogue. 27 03.13.32 Diese Menschen haben eine Kultur. Sie ist nur anders. Und ich moechte endlich aufhoeren diese Kulturen zu werten. Wir koennen sie nicht staendig vergleichen. Wir muessen sie so nehmen wie sie sind und in erste linie die positive seite betrachten. Wenn wir faehig sind dort anzusetzen, dann haben wir ja auch eine Dialogmoeglichkeit. 27 03 13.52 5253 For John, dialogue is less important than Karina’s memory. JOHN SYNC I’m not here for the political side really Because at the end of the day whatever we achieve here, its not going to change things. If we can achieve having a plaque or a monument put up at the site I would love that. Thas a personal goal of mine because that would be a great step forward. GROUP ROUND TABLE NEED YamashitasTRANSLATION 5317 UPSOUND 5327Hiroshi Yamashita still believes that the poor security at Luxor could constitute grounds for a legal case against the Egyptian government. 30. MEET THE GOVERNOR OF LUXOR 5337 On the final day together, the families have been granted an audience with the governor of Luxor. He will be given the petition asking for a memorial and will makea decision about it … but he begins with a speech. CAPTION: GENERAL EL BANNA – Governor of Luxor GENERAL EL-DESOUKI EL-BANNA SYNC -5349 We have a lot of other economic activities, like agriculture. In fact, we have now reached a level of 42,000 acres of cultivated land. 5403 For thirty minutes the governor is intent on selling Luxor to the group. - but it’s not why the families are here. GENERAL EL-DESOUKI EL-BANNA SYNC We have managed to reclaim about 1,285 square kilometres of land from the desert. JEAN DAWSON SYNC For our story, for our families , for the persons who are lost, we have not received the story of what happened to them. Only you have the evidence and we have come to seek that evidence of that day. GENERAL EL-DESOUKI EL-BANNA SYNC - Speak? I’m speak? 5444 We don’t have this information here in Luxor. I just don’t have it. It’s in the Interior Ministry in Cairo. Go and get it from there. Ask them for it and they will give it to you. JEAN DAWSON No-one’s stood up and said we are responsible. We are sorry we got it wrong. GENERAL EL-DESOUKI EL-BANNA SYNC - 5506 I already said… what we saw on that day, could happen anywhere in the world…../CUT/…. Can anyone change the time of his death, even by one second? Or one millionth of a second? Can he? JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC Scuse me. To me that sounds like an excuse – destiny. Still nobody accepts responsibility. Do we just accept what you are saying? GENERAL EL-DESOUKI EL-BANNA SYNC -5535 If someone dies here in our Islamic religion, we see it as the will of God, no matter what the cause of his death. JEAN SYNC Would it be possible as everyone said here, to put a memorial there for the persons that died? JOHN LAYCOCK SYNC So we can make steps. We can take your word.? Yes. GENERAL EL-DESOUKI EL-BANNA Yes Yes 33. MEMORIAL SITE 5625 A victory! The victims will have their memorial. A site has been chosen, not at the temple, but the very heart of Luxor town. Its really in the centre of the town? That’s in the centre of the town Thank you very much Ahmed. 5626 Hans has been asked to design the monument. This is a fantastic place. I think we can realise something here. Arrigato. 5633 In the absence of answers to their questions, winning the right to a memorial is an important achievement. HANS SCHOEPFER SYNC I’m really happy. I would like to begin. I didn’t believe that it would be possible so quickly. 35. FINAL CONCLUSIONS OVER FINAL MEETING OF FAMILIES 5654 The families will never forget what happened in Luxor five years ago. But all feel that the journey has helped them. 5706 Hans wants to start constructing the memorial to the vicims as soon as possible. 5711 John returns to his salon confident that Karina will be remembered in Luxor. 5719 Shoko has recently married, The trip has made her more able to move on with her life. 5725 Jean remains concerned that the official report into the massacre has not been released. She’ll keep asking questions. 5734 Hiroshi Yamashita is also dissatisfied but he’s prepared to reconsider legal action against the Egyptian govenment if the memorial is built. 5750 Before they leave, the Yamashitas feel there is one thing they must finally do - - 5756 pray for the souls of the gunmen who took Satoko and Hidenori away from them. ROLL CREDITS 30th November 2002 Final Record Script Massacre in Luxor 1 An In Focus Production For BBC & NHK