Fucs: Defacement is a macho joke

"When you break a computer you have to understand how it works and you learn," he told BBC Click Online.

"I think now I can think like a hacker, since I was breaking a lot of computer networks in Brazil, I can guess how these guys are thinking."

Andre believes things have changed quite a bit since his day. He has little time for today's defacers.

"I think defacement is useless. Most of these guys don't know how to do it. They just care about their image.

"They're not learning, they're just repeating a procedure developed by someone else. I think this is a big problem. Defacement is a macho joke."

'Patriotic' hacking

Sometimes it can be funny though. Outraged Brazilian defacers rampaged through Canadian sites after the country banned Brazilian beef, for example.

Hackers defaced Canadian sites

So some attacks seem to have been thought out, but is this enough?

"I think if they like computer security then they can become experts, but they have to want to and I don't see this at all," said Andre.

"Some guys have some will to change, but will is not everything, you need to start doing."

These web vandals would do well to listen to Andre, because if they follow his lead they could be cashing in for years to come.

"I can do anything I want. I'm not rich, but I can spend my holidays in Europe, in Chile skiing," said Andre. "I don't have snow in Brazil and I can snowboard twice a year, it's nice."